Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 173

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Jermaine Dye.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Wally Joyner?

No to both

mr. tegu · 04-10-2013, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

No to both

A five year span hint? Like 1995 to 2000?

Demonpenz · 04-10-2013, 12:51 PM

Gerrold Perry

SPchief · 04-10-2013, 12:52 PM

Dean Palmer

Deberg_1990 · 04-10-2013, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

No to both

Danny Tartabull?

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

A five year span hint? Like 1995 to 2000?

Hint: It was his best year for BA as a Royal but not for HRs nor RBI.

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Danny Tartabull?

1991

BigCatDaddy · 04-10-2013, 12:54 PM

Tartabull!

DJ's left nut · 04-10-2013, 12:55 PM

Danny Tartabul

EDIT: Q

Hootie · 04-10-2013, 12:56 PM

pitchers are too good anymore

we're not going to see a whole lot of 40 HR seasons ever again

**** all of the people that made steroids so frowned upon

**Saul Good** · 04-10-2013, 12:56 PM

Here's a trivia tidbit about Tartabull (not 100% sure it's accurate, though): Before Jeff Francouer, he was the last Royal to start in RF two seasons in a row.

Jermaine Dye may have, but I don't think so.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-10-2013, 12:58 PM

Mike Sweeney

DJ's left nut · 04-10-2013, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

pitchers are too good anymore

we're not going to see a whole lot of 40 HR seasons ever again

**** all of the people that made steroids so frowned upon

We're only going to see guys hit 40 that are legitimate 40 HR guys.

I was tired of seeing guys flip their wrists when they were off-balance and drive balls 340 to the opposite field. For ****'s sake, we were seeing broken bat homers. The game was way the hell out of whack.

Guys like Stanton and Harper will have 40 HR years and in really good years may challenge 50. In other words, baseball will be sane again.

Hootie · 04-10-2013, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

We're only going to see guys hit 40 that are legitimate 40 HR guys.

I was tired of seeing guys flip their wrists when they were off-balance and drive balls 340 to the opposite field. For ****'s sake, we were seeing broken bat homers. The game was way the hell out of whack.

Guys like Stanton and Harper will have 40 HR years and in really good years may challenge 50. In other words, baseball will be sane again.

that's fine and all but it's like the reverse hockey

if you like pitching duels, that's all fine and dandy

personally, I miss guys jacking 500 foot bombs

I wish they were still taking handfuls of greenies and pumping themselves full of adrenaline and testosterone and horse steroids

I miss Sammy Sosa and his 66 bombs, .360 BA and 165 RBI's

THOSE WERE THE DAYS

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-10-2013, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

Mike Sweeney

Nope

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
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