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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:01 PM   #2491
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Not when you have to pay him and he has an injury history. Absolutely no chance that happens.
See, that's why I'm thinking a #2. Possibly a very late #1.

If you're like...oh, Green Bay for example. Rodgers is 35. Your window is very, very short. You want to take a chance on a first round flop or a guy that's shown to be an excellent pass rusher in the NFL. Only question is health; and if your docs feel good about the results of the back surgery, maybe you take that risk.

but I doubt a mid or high #1. Maybe in some package of picks or something.
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:02 PM   #2492
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You're not going to get a 1st for Ford. Mack performs like that year in and year out. Dee Ford has had one good year. Ford is likely worth a 2nd and a 4th or something similar.
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:06 PM   #2493
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If he's worth more than Mack then we should keep him.

How many people here roasted Oakland for trading Mack? Even for two first rounders? Then laughed as John said pass rushers are hard to find?
No one has said (especially me) that he's worth MORE than mack.

But he's definitely worth a first.
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:07 PM   #2494
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Not when you have to pay him and he has an injury history. Absolutely no chance that happens.
Mack needed paid too.

He's was worth 2 1s. Ford is worth 1.
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You're not going to get a 1st for Ford. Mack performs like that year in and year out. Dee Ford has had one good year. Ford is likely worth a 2nd and a 4th or something similar.
I think you're right more than likely.

I also kind of think maybe Veach might want to put his own stamp on this defense; and a chance to move an expensive piece for a high pick might fit his aggressive stance.

I still like signing Flowers and moving on from Houston and tag and trade Ford but that's just my big plan today.
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Mack needed paid too.

He's was worth 2 1s. Ford is worth 1.
If it's like Green Bay's #30 I could see it.
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I think you're right more than likely.

I also kind of think maybe Veach might want to put his own stamp on this defense; and a chance to move an expensive piece for a high pick might fit his aggressive stance.

I still like signing Flowers and moving on from Houston and tag and trade Ford but that's just my big plan today.
I'd punt Ford and restructure Houston if it was me
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You're not going to get a 1st for Ford. Mack performs like that year in and year out. Dee Ford has had one good year. Ford is likely worth a 2nd and a 4th or something similar.
Exactly.

And Mack is a ****ing monster. A nightmare. Dee Ford is a goddamned cuddly kitten compared to Kahlil Mack.
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If it's like Green Bay's #30 I could see it.
Yeah. It's not going to be a top 15 pick. Later 1st imo
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I'd punt Ford and restructure Houston if it was me
I would agree but I've seen it said that Houston's agent is not interested in restructuring.

If that's the case, you have to cut him I think.
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Exactly.

And Mack is a ****ing monster. A nightmare. Dee Ford is a goddamned cuddly kitten compared to Kahlil Mack.
Well what were their stats last year?

Ford was just as nightmarish but you wouldn't know
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I would agree but I've seen it said that Houston's agent is not interested in restructuring.

If that's the case, you have to cut him I think.
Well then we have to punt.
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One Dee Ford is worth more than two average defensive backs.
I don't know, IS he?

We lost what, three games in which we scored 40 points?
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While I'm on my Trey Flowers kick-

how many games that we did lose was stopping the run a huge issue? Mightn't a guy like Flowers, who's a good run defender as well as a good but not elite pass rusher make your team better in both phases? You can't just run at him; and playing next to Jones you can't double him. Plus the #2 or so you pick up in the Ford trade? Doesn't that just make a lot of sense?
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Well what were their stats last year?

Ford was just as nightmarish but you wouldn't know
Again, look at the entirety of their careers. Mack gets 10+ sacks every year. He's automatic.

There's nothing about Dee Ford that is even remotely consistent.
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