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Old 04-25-2024, 09:24 PM  
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Old 12-10-2024, 04:43 PM   #2446
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This kind of stuff is exactly why worrying about the Chiefs giving up 30 sacks the rest of the way is silly. The playoffs are a completely different animal.
Yeah and then I think about if we are getting the BYE, fresh legs, home field advantage with bone-chilling Arrowhead...

I think we're gonna be just fine.
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Old 12-10-2024, 04:50 PM   #2447
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Yeah and then I think about if we are getting the BYE, fresh legs, home field advantage with bone-chilling Arrowhead...

I think we're gonna be just fine.
My biggest thing is that Pat is running into sacks right now.

I think our sack numbers go down because Pat will play better in the playoffs, regardless of what's going on with the line.
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Old 12-10-2024, 04:53 PM   #2448
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Yeah and then I think about if we are getting the BYE, fresh legs, home field advantage with bone-chilling Arrowhead...

I think we're gonna be just fine.
Yep, though that being said it still most likely be a 70-80% chance to beat Hou/Balt and then a 55/60% ch.ance to beat Buffalo to get to the Super Bowl
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Last year I started noticing Rashee figuring out the zones in space and showing signs of developing chemistry with Mahomes vs the Patriots in early December.

We are seeing that from Worthy and this is a great example. Worthy stops his route, finds the open space quickly bc he saw the blitz pre-snap.

Worthy from September probably keeps running straight and nerfing the play.

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I've always thought the "finds space" stuff was a little strange.

I mean - are these guys just much dumber than I realize? I don't think that's right.

Because how many of us played football growing up. I suspect ALL of us played at least the backyard version and most of us played it in some organized way.

And to a person, each one of us knew how to find space out there. Our plays were nowhere near as regimented and so we were far more likely to freelance and suddenly 'finding a soft spot' was as easy as breathing.

I really don't think it's the PLAYERS that struggle with the concept - it's the coaches. The coaches don't give them the rope to go off script. But you look at someone like DeMarcus Robinson - he was really good at that but also appeared to not have much of a clue how the offense actually worked. He just...found space.

Finding space is the easy part. The coaches trusting you to know WHEN to find that space is harder. I just think many coaches are too strict in when they let that happen. When the QB comes off his spot, all bets are off -- go find an opening. If the QB has moved, all the designed passing lanes are out the window as it is. Just go get open.
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I've always thought the "finds space" stuff was a little strange.

I mean - are these guys just much dumber than I realize? I don't think that's right.

Because how many of us played football growing up. I suspect ALL of us played at least the backyard version and most of us played it in some organized way.

And to a person, each one of us knew how to find space out there. Our plays were nowhere near as regimented and so we were far more likely to freelance and suddenly 'finding a soft spot' was as easy as breathing.

I really don't think it's the PLAYERS that struggle with the concept - it's the coaches. The coaches don't give them the rope to go off script. But you look at someone like DeMarcus Robinson - he was really good at that but also appeared to not have much of a clue how the offense actually worked. He just...found space.

Finding space is the easy part. The coaches trusting you to know WHEN to find that space is harder. I just think many coaches are too strict in when they let that happen. When the QB comes off his spot, all bets are off -- go find an opening. If the QB has moved, all the designed passing lanes are out the window as it is. Just go get open.
The way Travis talks about it makes it seems much more complex. It's not just finding space, its understanding what defensive scheme you're looking at, what the defenses assignments are as it relates to you, and then using that knowledge to attack the rules of the defense.

https://youtu.be/SgQSjwKG2eM?si=mVM8uH9eeIxGfWmV

I'm on mobile so I can't embed, but he seems to focus way more on reading the defense and figuring out where the weakness is and how to use it to get open.

Now, like you say, if the QB is running and its a broken play, then yeah, find some space and get open.

I doubt rookies have that level of understanding of pro defensive schemes and how to beat them pre-snap, thus the half season or so of time needed for it to sink in for them.
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The way Travis talks about it makes it seems much more complex. It's not just finding space, its understanding what defensive scheme you're looking at, what the defenses assignments are as it relates to you, and then using that knowledge to attack the rules of the defense.

https://youtu.be/SgQSjwKG2eM?si=mVM8uH9eeIxGfWmV

I'm on mobile so I can't embed, but he seems to focus way more on reading the defense and figuring out where the weakness is and how to use it to get open.

Now, like you say, if the QB is running and its a broken play, then yeah, find some space and get open.
Oh I think the way Travis does it is different.

I don't even think JJSS is doing things the way Kelce does things and he appears to have Mahomes full trust.

That play with Worthy? Naw - that's just breaking off a route when the QB scrambled. Heck, it's not even THAT advanced.

All Worthy did there was get to the top of a pretty simple stop route, see the play had broken down and then come back towards the QB and move into a throwing lane. That's HS football stuff; WR 101. I guess I just don't understand why I should be wowed by it.

Had he spotted something early in the route and just sat instead of pushing the seam - maybe. But if Mahomes doesn't do a couple little stutter steps to buy enough time for Worthy to FINALLY turn around, Worthy's back is still to that play as it falls apart. That play was pretty much entirely on Mahomes - Worthy was mostly just doing what I'd expect a Varsity kid to do in High School.
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Oh I think the way Travis does it is different.

I don't even think JJSS is doing things the way Kelce does things and he appears to have Mahomes full trust.

That play with Worthy? Naw - that's just breaking off a route when the QB scrambled. Heck, it's not even THAT advanced.

All Worthy did there was get to the top of a pretty simple stop route, see the play had broken down and then come back towards the QB and move into a throwing lane. That's HS football stuff; WR 101. I guess I just don't understand why I should be wowed by it.

Had he spotted something early in the route and just sat instead of pushing the seam - maybe. But if Mahomes doesn't do a couple little stutter steps to buy enough time for Worthy to FINALLY turn around, Worthy's back is still to that play as it falls apart. That play was pretty much entirely on Mahomes - Worthy was mostly just doing what I'd expect a Varsity kid to do in High School.
Yeah on this play it was just Worthy getting to the open spot after the play had gone on for about 4-5 seconds.

I've seen plenty of NFL WR's who can't do this part properly. (cough Skyy Moore cough) Not sure if its lack of ability or just giving up on the play. Idk, I'm more willing to give Worthy his flowers for making a heads up play as a rookie when plenty of other vets have trouble with stuff like that.
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Small thing probably no one cares about but me, Worthy's favorite mentor is JJSS and I love that. Proven vet that can help you win games AND teach the young ones how to succeed in this league.

I'm a big believer in mentorship and the winning culture, and having a player like JJSS be there for a guy like Worthy is how you continue to build that winning culture.
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I’m going to say the thing Kelce has all but admitted on the podcast and say officials swallow their whistle much, much more in the playoffs and that hugely benefitted our offense with Donavan covering Mahomes blindside.

*Kelce said the Chiefs didn’t fully appreciate this until the Patriots prison rushed their offense with extracurriculars in the AFCCG and the Chiefs have adopted that style since (it seemed to really rattle the Ravens last year).
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He's played like that for 2 years now.

I don't understand what has happened.
Ghosts. That simple.

He's not trusting anything. Dude's gotta reset himself, quit looking for the pressure so much, and let it rip.
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Ghosts. That simple.

He's not trusting anything. Dude's gotta reset himself, quit looking for the pressure so much, and let it rip.
Got to hit the drop and stop patting. Just rip it to the guy even when he's not wide open. He's got to trust his receivers to make the play and trust himself to put it in a spot. If you get him to throw when he hits his drop you probably eliminate 20% of his QB hits.
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Calling his TD today a run. When I watched it again it looks like a forward pass to me.
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