Pro Bowl LT DJ Humphries [signed by Chiefs]

[SHOWTIME]

Does Veach give him a call?

I predict @Chiefs. Makes too much sense https://t.co/hu5xdI5KF2

— Justin Pugh (@JustinPugh) November 22, 2024

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I agree with Matt Lane. He was just fine against the best pass rush in the league.

I would bring him back next year as insurance in the event we cannot find a LT in the draft. He isn’t in game shape and still looked solid.

PFFt is a funny beast.

They credit Humphries with 6 pressures in this game. Here are 17 pass sets w/ 1 pressure to #92.

Humphries gave up a sack to Bonitto and another pressure on an inside spin w/ Oladokun at QB. Find the extra 3. https://t.co/9kc85CqaaT

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) January 6, 2025

Lane is right here. And I've talked about this with PFF repeatedly.

The 'charting' they do is just given too much latitude. They are absolutely prone to confirmation bias. If they had him giving up 6 pressures yesterday they're just wrong.

I mean they'd have to count something like the rep where the DL essentially lined up at Nickel and Humphries had to dive to try to get out there. That ain't his block - that's the RB or at worst the QB throwing where he vacates. Nobody is expects an LT to get to that block.

Or the long completion to Remigio where he routes him inside and 'loses slowly' - the sort of rep that people love Thuney for having.

I just can't get to this idea that he was a walking disaster out there and if PFF believes he was, that's just bullshit.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yeah, further evidence that PFF is trash, generated by people who don't know what they're doing and make shit up as a result.

Sorry but we're missing six snaps.

If he's bad on those six snaps, 7 terrible snaps and 16 good ones is not sustainable.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I agree with Matt Lane. He was just fine against the best pass rush in the league.

I would bring him back next year as insurance in the event we cannot find a LT in the draft. He isn’t in game shape and still looked solid.

PFFt is a funny beast.

They credit Humphries with 6 pressures in this game. Here are 17 pass sets w/ 1 pressure to #92.

Humphries gave up a sack to Bonitto and another pressure on an inside spin w/ Oladokun at QB. Find the extra 3. https://t.co/9kc85CqaaT

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) January 6, 2025

This is what I saw as well. Which makes sense, you see, because it was actual reality.

The actual reality is, DJ was fine. He got beat on a couple of snaps, and otherwise did fine. It's the NFL, and the other guys get paid too, and so expecting peak Willie Roaf is silly.

Morris did better too on the right side than he's ever done on the left side, in my opinion. Everything inside of them was really sketchy. Which makes sense, given that guys are out of position (Kingsley) and wildly inexperienced in actual NFL games.

Regardless, Wince was a pile of indecision and inaccuracy, making it all look much, much worse than it was.

I don't know if there's enough there to win the game, but there were enough plays to be made to have made it respectable.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's not all of them. His worst rep came later and should've been included (as the Broncos still had most of their starting DL in by then).

But it's enough of them to dispose of the whole 'he was a turnstile' myth. He just wasn't.

He was solid. Not spectacular and not a disaster.

Best I can figure is some recency bias - the drive where he gave up the sack came late and that's what people remember. But literally the play right before that he stood Bonitto up.

If the bar was 'adequate' I think he cleared that.

It really is a question of game conditioning. Did he get worse because he got tired or because the game was a shit show and nobody was focused at that point?

And my concern about the conditioning issue is we only ran 33 offensive plays yesterday - 3rd fewest of all time. If he's wearing down under a light load, he's gonna be a mess if we have 3-4 10+ play drives in a game.

It's not the interesting answer for any of these kinds of discussions, but in the end, I trust that the coaches know what he's capable of based on this game and his performance in practice. I'm glad we at least had this game to evaluate him in a "real" situation.

If they decide he gives us the best shot, I'm in. If they decide that sacrificing LG play for Thuney at LT is the way to go, so be it. I really HOPE that Humpries can step up, though.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's not all of them. His worst rep came later and should've been included (as the Broncos still had most of their starting DL in by then).

But it's enough of them to dispose of the whole 'he was a turnstile' myth. He just wasn't.

He was solid. Not spectacular and not a disaster.

Best I can figure is some recency bias - the drive where he gave up the sack came late and that's what people remember. But literally the play right before that he stood Bonitto up.

If the bar was 'adequate' I think he cleared that.

It really is a question of game conditioning. Did he get worse because he got tired or because the game was a shit show and nobody was focused at that point?

I looked at his snap count and he played 32 snaps out of 34 which is like half a game. That is how bad our offense was.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Sorry but we're missing six snaps.

If he's bad on those six snaps, 7 terrible snaps and 16 good ones is not sustainable.

No, the reps with Oladokun don't matter. That dude plays the position like a terrier. Always has. You can't set up a pocket for that because god only knows where he's actually going to be.

With Wentz back there I can think of 3 spotty reps. I just don't see that as cause to bury the guy.

[htismaqe]

The ideal situation still is, and always was, DJ playing LT.

The coaches know what they're doing.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's not all of them. His worst rep came later and should've been included (as the Broncos still had most of their starting DL in by then).

But it's enough of them to dispose of the whole 'he was a turnstile' myth. He just wasn't.

He was solid. Not spectacular and not a disaster.

Best I can figure is some recency bias - the drive where he gave up the sack came late and that's what people remember. But literally the play right before that he stood Bonitto up.

If the bar was 'adequate' I think he cleared that.

It really is a question of game conditioning. Did he get worse because he got tired or because the game was a shit show and nobody was focused at that point?

Looking at the 4th and 7 sack again, I don't know if he thought he had chip help from Perine (who immediately released instead of chipping) or if it was truly just an awful rep.

But Humphries was pretty solid, and I think there's a good chance KC rolls with him at LT in the divisional and sees what it looks like.

[dirk digler]

The snap(s) he had next to Thuney looked good. He played next to Suamataia the rest of the game who probably never has played G before.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by DaFace

And my concern about the conditioning issue is we only ran 33 offensive plays yesterday - 3rd fewest of all time. If he's wearing down under a light load, he's gonna be a mess if we have 3-4 10+ play drives in a game.

It's not the interesting answer for any of these kinds of discussions, but in the end, I trust that the coaches know what he's capable of based on this game and his performance in practice. I'm glad we at least had this game to evaluate him in a "real" situation.

If they decide he gives us the best shot, I'm in. If they decide that sacrificing LG play for Thuney at LT is the way to go, so be it. I really HOPE that Humpries can step up, though.

...and this is the only reasonable stance for any of us to take.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I was thrilled with the signing. I hope that the 4.5M we gave him encourages him to come back next year and compete for the job.

Yesterday's game was awful one all accounts. My point all along is simply that Andy is going to go with his known commodity in Thuney at LT, and that's probably what Pat is advocating for as well.

If you want to bitch about Caliendo and the run game, fine. I'm not a Caliendo fan, and frankly was thrilled they gave Kingsley a game at LG. Its not like Caliendo is the future at G, he's a free agent after the year and I'm certainly not paying him anything when you have all this controllable OL talent at your disposal in Kingsley, Morris, Nozard, and Hanson.

Its my belief that the running game will be there in the playoffs with a rested Hunt and Pop back into the grove. But the LT question is all about our passing offense functioning and Andy knows what he can go with Thuney holding down the LT spot. Its as simple as that.

All I care about is the Bills and Ravens playing each other in the divisional round. If that happens I ****ing love our chances.

Not really relevant to this discussion but Caliendo is an ERFA and so will be back for peanuts next year.

[xztop123]

I thought dj looked good but I didn’t watch the entire game.

I checked his pff and it wasn’t good so what do I know

[xztop123]

As good as thuney has looked I still feel like he’s a big question mark.

Different body types make for different matchups. Thuney just looks odd on the edge and I feel like a certain defensive end profile might give him big problems.


The truly remarkable thing about thuney is his complete lack of holding / false start penalties. He’s historically good at avoiding costly mistakes. Probably one of the best of all time but I haven’t looked up the data

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Looking at the 4th and 7 sack again, I don't know if he thought he had chip help from Perine (who immediately released instead of chipping) or if it was truly just an awful rep.

But Humphries was pretty solid, and I think there's a good chance KC rolls with him at LT in the divisional and sees what it looks like.

The blow by on the rep in the video doesn't look like fatigue to me either.

DE just won the rep. It was a really good move. Looks like Humphries just telegraphed his punch a bit and hit hit by a great swipe move. That's just gonna happen sometimes.

I just keep watching that video for traits and they look solid.

Strong base - only gets walked backwards once.
Really good patience - isn't caught lunging at all
Good feet - maintains balance at contact, keeps his feet under him
Has the cadence down - is getting out of his snap quickly
Isn't guessing - often waits for opponent to commit before his punch

Those reps, strictly from a traits standpoint, look really encouraging.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by xztop123

I thought dj looked good but I didn’t watch the entire game.

I checked his pff and it wasn’t good so what do I know

as much or more than PFF does.