Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-23-2020, 10:09 PM  
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $-358004
VARSITY
*****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****

More to come! (I'll clean it up later - info dump into the OP)

(mod edit, all the goodness is in the spoiler tags)
Spoiler!

Last edited by Bearcat; 04-28-2020 at 12:07 PM..
Posts: 20,138
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2021, 08:50 PM   #2416
kccrow kccrow is offline
MVP
 
kccrow's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
Casino cash: $16403
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat View Post
CEH ankle is probably bothering him more than weve been lead to believe
It must be affecting his vision. o.0
Posts: 12,796
kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2021, 11:11 PM   #2417
Chief Pagan Chief Pagan is offline
Sometimes it's black and white
 
Chief Pagan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
Casino cash: $2204900
Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeF View Post
So our starting running back is a smallish, slow guy, w/limited vision, and not much power?

Umm ...
But at least he can't pass block.
__________________
Sometimes.
Posts: 6,560
Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 02:42 AM
DTVietnam
This message has been deleted by DTVietnam.
Old 09-14-2021, 03:54 AM   #2418
Rasputin Rasputin is offline
Tip of the hat LIV Champs
 
Rasputin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ks
Casino cash: $1455421
CEH is going a buck fifty on the Ravens and you can quoth me on that
__________________
"Those who don't believe in magic will never find it"
Posts: 56,402
Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 03:55 AM   #2419
Rasputin Rasputin is offline
Tip of the hat LIV Champs
 
Rasputin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ks
Casino cash: $1455421
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin View Post
CEH is going a buck fifty on the Ravens and you can quoth me on that
and a couple touchdowns
__________________
"Those who don't believe in magic will never find it"
Posts: 56,402
Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 05:25 AM   #2420
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $284910
I think it's a bit of not being entirely comfortable with the new OL yet is all. Last year, there were few actual holes to run through and it got worse as the year and injuries went on. Now it's all different guys and I'm sure it feels different.

I expect he'll get comfortable and better game by game.
Posts: 18,117
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 1     Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 05:27 AM   #2421
ThyKingdomCome15 ThyKingdomCome15 is offline
MVP
 
ThyKingdomCome15's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2019
Casino cash: $770400
Perhaps everyone raising concerns of CEH is dead wrong?
Posts: 8,329
ThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 07:46 AM   #2422
srvy srvy is offline
Fight, build, win!
 
srvy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: KC
Casino cash: $-518750
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus View Post
Why is he even flat-footed there? What is he seeing that's causing him to hesitate?

He's got nothing but daylight to his left. Three defenders in front of him but three hats on them. That's a win all day. 90% of starting backs in this league take that for at least 5-6 yards.

He should be in stride, full steam ahead.
Could be as simple as a year seeing the speed of the NFL he isn't confident in his acceleration to cut and get around the corner.
__________________
"The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
Posts: 25,326
srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 07:51 AM   #2423
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $849099
Quote:
Originally Posted by srvy View Post
Could be as simple as a year seeing the speed of the NFL he isn't confident in his acceleration to cut and get around the corner.
I think he's pressing the LOS to get the LB (or is that a safety?) to commit.

It was a staple move when he was at LSU. The play would be designed as something of an RB option and he'd press the line to make the LB think he was going to go middle. Then he'd bounce it outside after the LB committed and either the LB would get stuck in the wash or his angle would be so steep that he'd get sealed off by a blocker getting to the 2nd level.

If you make your cut too soon, the LB can read the cut and get downhill to snuff it out. I think he's trying to do something of a press/jump hop and maybe he's just not confident enough in that ankle to really give it a hard bounce so he quit on the move halfway through.

He's better than this. We know he is. Something's not right and it's just really hard to say what it is.

The concern, though, is while I'm confident he's better than he is right now - I don't know just how much better. He might be mediocre even when he's healthy. I just haven't seen much from him to get excited about in quite some time.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,768
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 09:01 AM   #2424
TEX TEX is offline
Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police
 
TEX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Galveston, TX
Casino cash: $263127
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
I think he's pressing the LOS to get the LB (or is that a safety?) to commit.

It was a staple move when he was at LSU. The play would be designed as something of an RB option and he'd press the line to make the LB think he was going to go middle. Then he'd bounce it outside after the LB committed and either the LB would get stuck in the wash or his angle would be so steep that he'd get sealed off by a blocker getting to the 2nd level.

If you make your cut too soon, the LB can read the cut and get downhill to snuff it out. I think he's trying to do something of a press/jump hop and maybe he's just not confident enough in that ankle to really give it a hard bounce so he quit on the move halfway through.

He's better than this. We know he is. Something's not right and it's just really hard to say what it is.

The concern, though, is while I'm confident he's better than he is right now - I don't know just how much better. He might be mediocre even when he's healthy. I just haven't seen much from him to get excited about in quite some time.
I just think he was a good college RB. He's too small and slow to have the same kind of success in the NFL. He'll have a good game every now and then, but he's not going to be the consistent threat the Chiefs need to take the offense to the next level.
__________________
"The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"
Posts: 36,229
TEX has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 09:03 AM   #2425
SupDock SupDock is offline
MVP
 
SupDock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2017
Casino cash: $530400
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX View Post
I just think he was a good college RB. He's too small and slow to have the same kind of success in the NFL. He'll have a good game every now and then, but he's not going to be the consistent threat the Chiefs need to take the offense to the next level.
I hope this isn’t the case, but to have success without having good speed or size, you need great agility and vision.
Posts: 7,383
SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.SupDock would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 09:20 AM   #2426
TEX TEX is offline
Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police
 
TEX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Galveston, TX
Casino cash: $263127
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupDock View Post
I hope this isn’t the case, but to have success without having good speed or size, you need great agility and vision.
Yep. And that seems to also be lacking at this level. Just think how much more potent this KC offense could be with a legit every down RB.
__________________
"The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"
Posts: 36,229
TEX has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 09:28 AM   #2427
staylor26 staylor26 is online now
In Search of a Life
 
staylor26's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Casino cash: $-400960
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupDock View Post
I hope this isn’t the case, but to have success without having good speed or size, you need great agility and vision.
He absolutely has great agility, and his vision was fine to good up until this year.
Posts: 51,065
staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 09:37 AM   #2428
penguinz penguinz is offline
Supporter
 
penguinz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2003
Casino cash: $1567626
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin View Post
CEH is going a buck fifty on the Ravens and you can quoth me on that
Only if you multiply his actual rushing yards by 3.
__________________
Posts: 17,184
penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.penguinz threw an interception on a screen pass.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 10:11 AM   #2429
crispystl crispystl is offline
MVP
 
crispystl's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Casino cash: $-474860
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Did he do anything there that McKinnon couldn't, though?

He just leaked out, caught a simple swing pass and ran to the boundary. It was easy money.

Yes, it's how I'd like to see him utilized more, but it's also nothing that can establish him as a genuine asset any more than some street FA backup RB like McKinnon could be. And they still don't seem to trust him much in pass pro so he's coming out on some of the 3rd down plays where that kind of skill can be used more frequently.
This is a good point. It looked like McKinnon was substantially better in the preseason. Much quicker with better vision.
Posts: 7,028
crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2021, 10:21 AM   #2430
KChiefs1 KChiefs1 is offline
I’m a Mahomo!
 
KChiefs1's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-Missouri
Casino cash: $6771021
Quote:
Originally Posted by penguinz View Post
Only if you multiply his actual rushing yards by 3.

I was thinking more along the line of multiplying by 5.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Posts: 54,038
KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:34 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.