Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs - Page 15

**Rain Man** · 11:30 AM

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Spoiler!

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

Teams As Of Post #113:

Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)

patteeu · 09-08-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You can still put Richardson on your squad since he's on the final roster (even if it's practice squad).

And pestilence, I have the same problem with the kicker. I think it's too late to re-do our drafts, and there's no way to pick one up. Unless people can come up with a reasonable solution, I think you and I are going with Scrubby McScrub as our kicker this year.

Maybe you ought to be able to keep players that the Chiefs cut during preseason like Conner Barth and Bernard Pollard. That probably wouldn't do you much good at the kicker position, but you'd at least have a chance that someone would pick Barth up and it's not really much different than deciding to keep a guy who ends up being a backup on another team.

**Rain Man** · 09-08-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Does the scrub count on our 40 man roster?

No, the scrubs are the last 13 to get to 53, so you get 40 "name" players.

**Rain Man** · 09-08-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

Maybe you ought to be able to keep players that the Chiefs cut during preseason like Conner Barth and Bernard Pollard. That probably wouldn't do you much good at the kicker position, but you'd at least have a chance that someone would pick Barth up and it's not really much different than deciding to keep a guy who ends up being a backup on another team.

Hmm, that's an interesting possibility. In most cases it wouldn't be in one's best interests, but it could fill a gaping hole. And it would present the interesting debate of whether one takes a player who's been cut, or just go with a scrub.

What do others think of this idea?

**The Franchise** · 09-08-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

1. The Slackers reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Slackers accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Slackers accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.

The 2009 Sioux Falls Slackers NFL Draft

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Everette Brown - DE/OLB - Florida State
#67 - Jarron Gilbert - DE - San Jose State
#102 - Lawrence Sidbury - DE/OLB - Richmond
#139 - Fenuki Tupou - OT - Oregon
#175 - Brandon Gibson - WR - Washington State
#212 - A.Q. Shipley - OC/OG - Penn State
#237 - Trevor Canfield - OG - Cincinatti
#256 - Chris Baker - NT - Hampton

**** my draft sucks after pick #212.

Here is my 40 man roster

QB:

Mark Sanchez
Brodie Croyle
Matt Gutierrez

RB:

Larry Johnson
Jamaal Charles
Jackie Battle

FB:

Mike Cox

WR:

Dwayne Bowe
Mark Bradley
Brandon Gibson

TE:

Brad Cottam

OT:

Brandon Albert
Fenuki Tupou
Barry Richardson
Ryan O'Callaghan

OG:

Brian Waters
Ike Ndukwe
Trevor Canfield
Daryl Harris

OC:

Andy Alleman
A.Q. Shipley

DE:

Jarron Gilbert
Glenn Dorsey

NT:

Chris Baker
Tank Tyler

OLB:

Everette Brown
Lawrence Sidbury
Tamba Hali
Andy Studebaker

ILB:

Corey Mays
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher

CB:

Brandon Flower
Brandon Carr
Maurice Leggett
Ricardo Colclough

S:

Jarrad Page
Mike Brown
DaJuan Morgan

K:

Scrub

P:

Dustin Colquitt

patteeu · 09-08-2009, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Hmm, that's an interesting possibility. In most cases it wouldn't be in one's best interests, but it could fill a gaping hole. And it would present the interesting debate of whether one takes a player who's been cut, or just go with a scrub.

What do others think of this idea?

On a depleted roster like the Chiefs, it probably wouldn't make much difference, but if you get to the point where the Chiefs are letting people go who have value it could. The example that comes to mind was the year they cut Ryan Lilja from a team that still had a really good offensive line. Lilja, of course, went on to get a bunch of starts over the next couple of years for the Colts. Punters and kickers who get cut often wind up on other teams too unless they're nobodies like Conner Barth.

chiefscafan · 09-08-2009, 05:03 PM

LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State

FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
13 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C

64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

K
6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
20 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine

DE
94 Tyson Jackson DE LSU
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State

DT
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST

IR:

59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)

Cuts:

10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
43 Gaffrd, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston
ETC

ok here you go

**The Franchise** · 09-08-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron

Ryan O'Callaghan
60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern

LA Cobras Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)

Man this sucks now all injuries and a dumb ass crabtree I don't want to play lol jk. Ok I'll have my roster tomorrow on my day off also will have my alt 3 roster done
Posts: 1,917

My 35 man roster:

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston

FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin (drafted by Steelers)
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State

K
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska

DE
#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama

DT
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State

Cuts:
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois

Well...let's see. You don't get to include your draft and the Chiefs draft.

So you can get rid of the following players:

Tyson Jackson
Donald Washington
Colin Brown
Quentin Lawrence

And it's 40 players...not 35.

chiefscafan · 09-09-2009, 11:51 AM

Sorry dude I was tired I'll fix it

bdeg · 09-09-2009, 01:44 PM

40-Everette Brown
41-Connor Barwin
67-Kraig Urbik
83-Brandon Tate
97-Jonathan Luigs
102-Donald Washington
139-Jasper Brinkley
141-Duke Robinson
175-Jarius Wynn
212-Javarris Williams
232-Jake O'Connell
234-Zach Follett
256-Ryan Succop

Hopefully this isn't too late

QB Cassel, Croyle
RB LJ Charles Savage
FB Cox
WR Bowe, Bradley, Tate
T Albert, O'Callaghan, Ndukwe
G Waters, Alleman, Robinson, Urbik
C Luigs, Niswanger
TE Cottam

DE Barwin, Brown, Hali, McBride
DT Dorsey, Tank
SLB Vrabel, Mays
MLB Williams, Brinkley
WLB DJ
CB Flowers, Carr, Washington, Leggett
S Pollard, Page, Brown, Morgan
K Succop
P Colquitt

chiefscafan · 09-09-2009, 06:56 PM

4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State

chiefscafan · 09-09-2009, 07:04 PM

LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Lee lee, Ashley WR
11 Rodney Wright WR

13 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C

64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

chiefscafan · 09-09-2009, 07:15 PM

LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2
Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Lee lee, Ashley WR
11 Rodney Wright WR
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

chiefscafan · 09-09-2009, 07:31 PM

LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2
Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Lee lee, Ashley WR
11 Rodney Wright WR
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

K
6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA
47 McGraw, John

SS
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine

chiefscafan · 09-09-2009, 07:33 PM

DE
70 Boone
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State

DT
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST

IR:

59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)

Cuts:

10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas

chiefscafan · 09-09-2009, 07:42 PM

25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2
Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Leele, Ashley WR
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

K
6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA
47 McGraw, John

SS
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
59 BElcher, Jovan ILB 6'2" 228. Maine

DE
70 Boone
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State

DT
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST

IR:

59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)

Cuts:

10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas

03-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1358491 VARSITY	Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years. 1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster. 2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add. 3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing. 4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster. 5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have. 6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post. 6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. 7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players. Original post: You can ignore this now. Spoiler! Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon. The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting. Here's how the game will work. Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.) Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly. Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub". Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285. Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues. Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player. There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap. I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting. So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team. Teams As Of Post #113: Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox) Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333) Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman) Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon) Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover) Duluth Normans (Rain Man) El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz) Fargo Rape (SNR) Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good) Fresno Refugees (Adam) Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter) Hartford Manticores (Crush) Honolulu Craters (Sully) Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu) Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser) Little Rock Reapers (doomy3) Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan) Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis) Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut) Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka) Omaha Streakers (speak24) Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry) Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72) San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog) Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg) Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23) Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts) Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1) Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie) Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk) Worcester Sauce (unothadeal) Added Rules and Reminders: 1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted. 2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in. 3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent. For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259) For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.) You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) Last edited by Rain Man; 04-25-2024 at 11:30 AM..*
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09-08-2009, 05:03 PM	#216
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th LA Cobras Draft: #3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers) #67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears) #102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) #139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) #175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins) #212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) #237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers) #256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs) QB 7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC 12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama 4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina HB 27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State FB 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State 13 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State 15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech TE 89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College 87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee T 76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia 75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California 63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech G 54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis C 64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State 61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298 K 6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina P 2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee FS 44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA SS 48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska 38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State CB 24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech 39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State 31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State 20 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State OLB 91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State 50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State 96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas 51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame 59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine DE 94 Tyson Jackson DE LSU 72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State DT 93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State 73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST IR: 59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) 88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) Cuts: 10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina 57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas 81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State 43 Gaffrd, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston 15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State 69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas 90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis 21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville 26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston ETC ok here you go Last edited by chiefscafan; 09-09-2009 at 11:56 AM..
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09-09-2009, 11:51 AM	#218
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Sorry dude I was tired I'll fix it
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09-09-2009, 01:44 PM	#219
bdeg Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: iowa Casino cash: $10004900	40-Everette Brown 41-Connor Barwin 67-Kraig Urbik 83-Brandon Tate 97-Jonathan Luigs 102-Donald Washington 139-Jasper Brinkley 141-Duke Robinson 175-Jarius Wynn 212-Javarris Williams 232-Jake O'Connell 234-Zach Follett 256-Ryan Succop Hopefully this isn't too late QB Cassel, Croyle RB LJ Charles Savage FB Cox WR Bowe, Bradley, Tate T Albert, O'Callaghan, Ndukwe G Waters, Alleman, Robinson, Urbik C Luigs, Niswanger TE Cottam DE Barwin, Brown, Hali, McBride DT Dorsey, Tank SLB Vrabel, Mays MLB Williams, Brinkley WLB DJ CB Flowers, Carr, Washington, Leggett S Pollard, Page, Brown, Morgan K Succop P Colquitt
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09-09-2009, 06:56 PM	#220
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina HB 27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
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09-09-2009, 07:04 PM	#221
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th LA Cobras Draft: #3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers) #67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears) #102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) #139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) #175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins) #212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) #237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers) #256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs) QB 7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC 12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama 4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina HB 27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State 17 Lee lee, Ashley WR 11 Rodney Wright WR 13 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State 15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech TE 89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College 87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee T 76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia 75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California 63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech G 54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis C 64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State 61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298
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09-09-2009, 07:15 PM	#222
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th LA Cobras Draft: #3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers) #67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears) #102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) #139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) #175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins) #212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) #237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers) #256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs) QB 7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC 12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama 4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina 27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State 17 Lee lee, Ashley WR 11 Rodney Wright WR 15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech TE 89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College 87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee T 76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia 75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California 63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech G 54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis C 64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State 61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298
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09-09-2009, 07:31 PM	#223
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th LA Cobras Draft: #3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers) #67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears) #102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) #139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) #175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins) #212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) #237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers) #256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs) QB 7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC 12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama 4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina 27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State 17 Lee lee, Ashley WR 11 Rodney Wright WR 15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech TE 89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College 87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee T 76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia 75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California 63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech G 54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis C 64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State 61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298 K 6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina P 2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee FS 44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA 47 McGraw, John SS 48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska 38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State CB 24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech 39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State 31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State OLB 91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State 50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State 96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas 51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame 59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
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09-09-2009, 07:33 PM	#224
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	DE 70 Boone 72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State DT 93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State 73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST IR: 59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) 88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) Cuts: 10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina 57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
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09-09-2009, 07:42 PM	#225
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State 17 Leele, Ashley WR 15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech TE 89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College 87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee T 76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia 75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California 63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech G 54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis C 64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State 61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298 K 6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina P 2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee FS 44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA 47 McGraw, John SS 48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska 38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State CB 24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech 39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State 31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State OLB 91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State 50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State 96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas 51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame 59 BElcher, Jovan ILB 6'2" 228. Maine DE 70 Boone 72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State DT 93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State 73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST IR: 59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) 88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) Cuts: 10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina 57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
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