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Old 02-25-2025, 08:33 AM  
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Veach trying to keep Trey Smith- Update: Franchise Tagged
Have said many times that I feared this would happen

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Old 02-25-2025, 07:52 PM   #196
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Nate Taylor just now says there’s growing optimism they’ll reach a 5-year deal with Smith before the tampering period begins.

Oh boy..
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Old 02-25-2025, 07:55 PM   #197
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Is it possible Thuney retires?

I rememeber that rumor last year after the SB, weird that it hasn't been discussed at all, but I could totally see it.
He's close to the HoF but I don't think he's in yet.

Needs a couple more awards/honors, IMO.

I'd be surprised if that didn't matter to him.
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Old 02-25-2025, 07:59 PM   #198
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This is true. I think Teven Jenkins would be equally as sought after if he could just be healthy but nope...

Found this top 100 by PFT, they have Smith as the 3rd overall FA available.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...d-top-the-list

All that said, I still have reservations about signing him long-term to the contract we all know he will require. Seems illogical.
With Tee Higgins tagged, Trey Smith is the number 1 free agent available according to PFF and NFL.com. The NBC list you posted has him as 2 behind Darnold.

So it’s universally agreed that the best FA available for the Chiefs is….Trey Smith.

Guys. This FA class sucks. It’s one of the weaker classes in recent years.

Compare this to last year when Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, Danielle Hunter, Josh Jacobs or Christian Wilkins. Not even close.

And yeah this deal makes a lot of sense if Thuney is close to the end, which it appears he is.
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Old 02-25-2025, 07:59 PM   #199
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Even you two think this move would suck. You've both edited disclaimers into your posts about it.
No, I don't think it would suck. It's not what I would probably do, but I'm also not qualified to be an NFL GM and I know it.

I have no idea what Veach is going to do, but I do know freaking out in February is dumb.
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:01 PM   #200
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Could Vern Beach sign Smith and then trade him for draft picks?
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No, I don't think it would suck. It's not what I would probably do, but I'm also not qualified to be an NFL GM and I know it.

I have no idea what Veach is going to do, but I do know freaking out in February is dumb.
So we're at the appeal to authority part of the cope, I see. None of us are qualified to be in an NFL scouting department so there's no point discussing anything, ever, apparently.
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Copied from another thread. About the 7 minute mark really explains the thought process here

https://youtu.be/F08TZX9aNoY?si=Dni3gKePYiyEfgX-
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:08 PM   #203
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And just so we're clear-

I don't really have a strong opinion on re-signing Smith vs. not. I don't know what the other plans are. If you can tell me the whole plan, THEN I'll have an opinion.

I see multiple paths, and I don't know if I even have any idea what paths Veach is seeing. I'm just sitting on my couch, digesting my lovely wife's spaghetti and meatballs.

When you simply look at the whole picture of the offensive line, ages, and how many years are left on the large contracts we have, it's not hard to see a fairly easy path to affording, say, an Alaric Jackson AND a Trey Smith when you consider that Thuney is 33 and about done with his deal and Taylor can be cut in '26. So, it's not crazy.

I also see why they may NOT want to go as high as Smith might go.

I'm also sure regardless that Veach has a line in the sand with ALL of these guys that he's not going to go over AND a few pivot plans to go to if that comes to pass.

So relax. It'll be ok.
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“It comes down to him setting his feet and trusting the protection up front.”

Yeah. No need to analyze this one any further..
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:09 PM   #205
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So basically he’s wasting picks drafting OL past the second round is what you’re saying? Why can’t Morris or any of the 5 players (4 because Kinnard was never in consideration) he’s drafted make the lineup? Other teams seem to hit on OL beyond round 2.
What a tired take.

You are comparing one team that you follow to a combined 31 other teams that you don't follow. So of course you've heard about some of the hits other teams have made in the latter rounds, without hearing about all the misses they've had in those late rounds since you don't follow them.
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So we're at the appeal to authority part of the cope, I see. None of us are qualified to be in an NFL scouting department so there's no point discussing anything, ever, apparently.
No, discussion is fine.

Saying, "I don't think I like the idea of paying Smith at a record setting deal."

Throwing a hissy fit is silly and not having a discussion.
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What's your beef with a day 3 rookie that looked pretty damn good week 18 against starters?
Was trash in pretty season, a huge down grade compared to Smith, couldn't even move to the other side and unseat Caliendo. Draftubators anointed him as a starter and now look at them wrong.... again
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“It comes down to him setting his feet and trusting the protection up front.”

Yeah. No need to analyze this one any further..
Yep. Couple that with his earlier comment about LT being one of the priorities along with DL and it's pretty clear he's going to come out swinging for their top available OT early.
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Was trash in pretty season, a huge down grade compared to Smith, couldn't even move to the other side and unseat Caliendo. Draftubators anointed him as a starter and now look at them wrong.... again
Good gods, man. What is actually WRONG with you?
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Depends if we are giving a short term deal to a LT.

If we sign Trey for 4-5 years, that cap money is low now and will inflate in future years.

That would free up a LT contract for 2-3 years

Not to mention that patricks contract is oddly frontloaded so that the money can move around. He is due 60+ million each of the next three years against the cap, but that falls to 32m in 2028, 34m in 2029 then its in the 40m range after that. They have alot of stuff they could do to be rich in cap space this year if clark wants to write big old checks.


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Patrick's contract is oddly frontloaded because when they restructured it they just pulled money from the later years and moved it forward and called it a 5 year deal. When it falls down to the 30s is when it will get redone once again.
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