So it begins..Browns might take Trubisky 1st overall?

[RunKC]

Adam Schefter

Just had an NFL exec tell me, "Don't be surprised if Myles Garrett isn't the No. 1 pick." Exec convinced a QB is in discussion at No. 1.

Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes will all be gone by pick 13.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I think there should be more talk about Chad Kelly.

One of the most talented QB's in this draft class imo. Yes, yes, off the field red flags and two torn ACL's, but the guy could turn out to be a steal.

This year's Tyler Bray?

if you are comparing him to tyler bray, we have already seen how that panned out.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I think there should be more talk about Chad Kelly.

One of the most talented QB's in this draft class imo. Yes, yes, off the field red flags and two torn ACL's, but the guy could turn out to be a steal.

This year's Tyler Bray?

So IR every year and does nothing?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

So IR every year and does nothing?

But look at that arm strength!

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Mahommes had a great day working out for Arizona per Matt Miller. There's no way in hell he's falling past them.

He said that the two teams to watch with Mahomes were Arizona and KC, but....

He said for Kansas City, he would need to fall a bit lower obviously to get into striking distance. There's no telling how far they are willing to trade up, but I would hope if he gets past Arizona that they will make the move.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

He said that the two teams to watch with Mahomes were Arizona and KC, but....

He said for Kansas City, he would need to fall a bit lower obviously to get into striking distance. There's no telling how far they are willing to trade up, but I would hope if he gets past Arizona that they will make the move.

Buffalo at 10.
They have the least picks in the draft. Andy groomed McDermott. If Mahomes really is the guy, then you offer Buffalo multiple picks to get ahead of both Cleveland and Arizona. Steep cost.

If somehow Arizona passes on Mahomes, you then call Ballard in Indy. They have 7 picks. I can imagine a new GM would want more picks to put a stamp on his roster in a deep draft. You also say, "Do you want your division rival Houston to get their future guy? We can help prolong their qb problem...."

We will soon find out if Mahomes has drawn the fancy of the brass, or if they play the percentages and let the players fall to them in a deep draft.

I too long for a shiny new qb, but at what price and risk? The franchise could get so much better around the qb position through this draft alone: aging pass rusher, injured ilb, poor run defense, more depth needed at rb, and a Maclin replacement could all be found within our first four picks. Do you throw that away on "potential" at the qb spot?

I can't imagine the stress Dorsey and company are going through leading up to this draft - so hard to read how this qb class is going to shake out.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Buffalo at 10.
They have the least picks in the draft. Andy groomed McDermott. If Mahomes really is the guy, then you offer Buffalo multiple picks to get ahead of both Cleveland and Arizona. Steep cost.

If somehow Arizona passes on Mahomes, you then call Ballard in Indy. They have 7 picks. I can imagine a new GM would want more picks to put a stamp on his roster in a deep draft. You also say, "Do you want your division rival Houston to get their future guy? We can help prolong their qb problem...."

We will soon find out if Mahomes has drawn the fancy of the brass, or if they play the percentages and let the players fall to them in a deep draft.

I too long for a shiny new qb, but at what price and risk? The franchise could get so much better around the qb position through this draft alone: aging pass rusher, injured ilb, poor run defense, more depth needed at rb, and a Maclin replacement could all be found within our first four picks. Do you throw that away on "potential" at the qb spot?

I can't imagine the stress Dorsey and company are going through leading up to this draft - so hard to read how this qb class is going to shake out.

The Colts trade idea is really solid. If Ballard can stock up on talented players, they are a SB contender with Luck. More picks = more opportunities to hit on game changers.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The Colts trade idea is really solid. If Ballard can stock up on talented players, they are a SB contender with Luck. More picks = more opportunities to hit on game changers.

This was my idea previously.

I think Ballard would cut us a solid deal if we gave a good deal.

Colts 14th overall pick is worth 1,100 points

Ideal trade

27th overall pick (680 points)
3rd rd pick (136 points)
2018 2nd rd pick (at least 300 points)

That alone is over 1,100 points and gives Ballard a lot of options in a deep draft.

We all know Dorsey wants his picks, so he could trade down in rd 2 like like year (59 to 74 for a 4th rd pick) and gain another mid round valuable pick.

[RunKC]

Also..Houston traded their 2nd rd pick. They've got no ammo to trade up for a QB

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Also..Houston traded their 2nd rd pick. They've got no ammo to trade up for a QB

Which also makes it difficult to take one of these QB's that has to sit a year.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The Colts trade idea is really solid. If Ballard can stock up on talented players, they are a SB contender with Luck. More picks = more opportunities to hit on game changers.

Originally Posted by RunKC

This was my idea previously.

I think Ballard would cut us a solid deal if we gave a good deal.

Colts 14th overall pick is worth 1,100 points

Ideal trade

27th overall pick (680 points)
3rd rd pick (136 points)
2018 2nd rd pick (at least 300 points)

That alone is over 1,100 points and gives Ballard a lot of options in a deep draft.

We all know Dorsey wants his picks, so he could trade down in rd 2 like like year (59 to 74 for a 4th rd pick) and gain another mid round valuable pick.

Here is a big hypothetical that will not happen but fun to ponder. Let's say Dorsey trades up and for some reason Mahomes and Foster are right there for the taking. Who would you take ?

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Here is a big hypothetical that will not happen but fun to ponder. Let's say Dorsey trades up and for some reason Mahomes and Foster are right there for the taking. Who would you take ?

Tough one.
Foster will be an all-pro for 10 years.
Mahomes might be out of the league in 3-5 years, or a franchise-signal caller. The smart money says Foster, but the ILB position is less impactful and more readily replaced talent-wise. Can't say the same about the qb position. If Dorsey/Reid are completely sold on Mahomes then you trade up for him. Any hesitation and you stand pat or go get Foster.

Pretty much two of my favourite players in this draft, so tough decision and neat scenario on your part.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Tough one.
Foster will be an all-pro for 10 years.
Mahomes might be out of the league in 3-5 years, or a franchise-signal caller. The smart money says Foster, but the ILB position is less impactful and more readily replaced talent-wise. Can't say the same about the qb position. If Dorsey/Reid are completely sold on Mahomes then you trade up for him. Any hesitation and you stand pat or go get Foster.

Pretty much two of my favourite players in this draft, so tough decision and neat scenario on your part.

Good analysis. Another player I hope we take IF we can't get the QB of our choice is Reddick. I like his explosion and motor. He may even go before 27 and probably will and I would hate to see any of our divisional rivals get him that's for sure.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Good analysis. Another player I hope we take IF we can't get the QB of our choice is Reddick. I like his explosion and motor. He may even go before 27 and probably will and I would hate to see any of our divisional rivals get him that's for sure.

I respectfully disagree on Reddick .

Too much bad tape for me. I get leery with guys who transition to multiple positions/schemes from college to pro. He's too light to play edge and not experienced enough to be inside. I saw too many instances of him making no impact snap to snap. Impressive flash plays, but few and far between.

Tim Williams and Tarell Basham are guys I like as pass rush fits for us. Bowser is interesting too.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Here is a big hypothetical that will not happen but fun to ponder. Let's say Dorsey trades up and for some reason Mahomes and Foster are right there for the taking. Who would you take ?

The answer is pretty obvious to me.

I don't think Dorsey would trade up if it wasn't for a QB.

He just stays put and sees what falls if you're talking about an ILB.


I still not sure that Reid prefers Mahomes though.


If we are trading up for a QB then we jump up for Watson. imo

[Black Bob]

They won't take Trubiscuit #1.