Pro Bowl LT DJ Humphries [signed by Chiefs]

[SHOWTIME]

Does Veach give him a call?

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— Justin Pugh (@JustinPugh) November 22, 2024

[tyreekthefreak]

It could have been rust but Humphries didn't impress me at all the game he played. Thuneys play this week will determine alot, in my eyes anyway. They'll probably give Humphries the last two games to show he is better than Thuney. If not, start Thuney at LT!

[xztop123]

Getting annoyed with all the talk show guys saying we’re below average offense without mahomes.

We have brown coming back and may have fixed our left tackle issues. Why don’t they bring this up? Do they even know?

[xztop123]

Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak

It could have been rust but Humphries didn't impress me at all the game he played. Thuneys play this week will determine alot, in my eyes anyway. They'll probably give Humphries the last two games to show he is better than Thuney. If not, start Thuney at LT!

Dj played amazing compared to the other options.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak

It could have been rust but Humphries didn't impress me at all the game he played. Thuneys play this week will determine alot, in my eyes anyway. They'll probably give Humphries the last two games to show he is better than Thuney. If not, start Thuney at LT!

LOL no. Thuneys not an answer long term. He had a good first half because he poked Garrett in the eye and he missed the second quarter. When he came back it was pretty much what its been all season. Our offense was terrible in the second half. Thuneys not the answer, he's a stop gap.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by xztop123

Dj played amazing compared to the other options.

If his jersey said "Morris" on the back, people would've barbecued him for that Chargers game.

No, he was nothing resembling 'amazing'. He got better as the game went on and looked okay in the 2nd half before getting hurt. But he was getting beat up in that first half.

Is there reasonable hope that it was just rust and he'll improve? Of course -- but lets not go saying things that just aren't true. He gave up 5 pressures in 44 pass reps - that's NOT amazing. Morris only gave up more than 5 pressures in a single game this season. He had maybe 2 games that were as rough as Humphries game this year -- the LV game (obviously) and the TB game.

Thuney wasn't a fix. Humphries wasn't an obvious improvement over what we got from Morris for about 90% of the season.

This team needs to find improvement beyond merely LT. DJ Humphries will NOT be a panacea. There are issues all over this offense.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak

It could have been rust but Humphries didn't impress me at all the game he played. Thuneys play this week will determine alot, in my eyes anyway. They'll probably give Humphries the last two games to show he is better than Thuney. If not, start Thuney at LT!

God almighty, the takes are getting worse.

Did nobody WATCH that game? Thuney was getting mauled.

No, Thuney is not a left tackle.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

God almighty, the takes are getting worse.

Did nobody WATCH that game? Thuney was getting mauled.

No, Thuney is not a left tackle.

I don't recall him ever getting instantly beat like Morris did with he swipe. But he had more help or at least it seemed that way.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I don't recall him ever getting instantly beat like Morris did with he swipe. But he had more help or at least it seemed that way.

Right - he was getting a TON of help that Morris wasn't getting.

Morris appears to have gone to that single set/punch because he was desperately trying to protect that outside shoulder as he wasn't getting a ton of help and was struggling with mobility because of his knee.

Had we tried to throw the layers of protection help at his assignment that Thuney was getting, it would've looked a lot better for him because even when he loses on that swipe, if there's help to his outside he'll have time to re-set and re-engage.

He just wasn't getting that. Nor was Kingsley.

Now I do agree that Thuney's floor is probably higher than Morris's. Thuney's bad days aren't going to be much worse than we saw Sunday. Morris's bad days (the two Raiders games most obviously) are catastrophic.

But I don't think we're comparing apples to apples in a lot of ways.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by xztop123

Getting annoyed with all the talk show guys saying we’re below average offense without mahomes.

We have brown coming back and may have fixed our left tackle issues. Why don’t they bring this up? Do they even know?

Gotta show something first.

[Snerd]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

LOL no. Thuneys not an answer long term. He had a good first half because he poked Garrett in the eye and he missed the second quarter. When he came back it was pretty much what its been all season. Our offense was terrible in the second half. Thuneys not the answer, he's a stop gap.

Maybe he can just keeping poking guys in the eye? Gotta think outside the box here.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Right - he was getting a TON of help that Morris wasn't getting.

Morris appears to have gone to that single set/punch because he was desperately trying to protect that outside shoulder as he wasn't getting a ton of help and was struggling with mobility because of his knee.

Had we tried to throw the layers of protection help at his assignment that Thuney was getting, it would've looked a lot better for him because even when he loses on that swipe, if there's help to his outside he'll have time to re-set and re-engage.

He just wasn't getting that. Nor was Kingsley.

Now I do agree that Thuney's floor is probably higher than Morris's. Thuney's bad days aren't going to be much worse than we saw Sunday. Morris's bad days (the two Raiders games most obviously) are catastrophic.

But I don't think we're comparing apples to apples in a lot of ways.

Your not comparing apples to apples because no one is handling Myles one on one He is going to be a focile point of the pass protection schemes on the day. You are going to go into the game planning to help against him.

The Raiders your going to plan to help against Crosby not Clausen who has 1.5 sacks in the other 10 games this season. Any game plan is going to try and handle a guy that basically has no sacks coming into the game without help.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Right - he was getting a TON of help that Morris wasn't getting.

Morris appears to have gone to that single set/punch because he was desperately trying to protect that outside shoulder as he wasn't getting a ton of help and was struggling with mobility because of his knee.

Had we tried to throw the layers of protection help at his assignment that Thuney was getting, it would've looked a lot better for him because even when he loses on that swipe, if there's help to his outside he'll have time to re-set and re-engage.

He just wasn't getting that. Nor was Kingsley.

Now I do agree that Thuney's floor is probably higher than Morris's. Thuney's bad days aren't going to be much worse than we saw Sunday. Morris's bad days (the two Raiders games most obviously) are catastrophic.

But I don't think we're comparing apples to apples in a lot of ways.

A part of me would actually like to have seen Kingsley get that kind of help and see if he grew into the role with less help over time. But we will never know.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

A part of me would actually like to have seen Kingsley get that kind of help and see if he grew into the role with less help over time. But we will never know.

Yeah, i think it was Crow that made that point well.

Where we are in the competitive cycle extends beyond our draft position. So many people say "Well we can't get X because we never draft that high..."

And the point was made, correctly, that the bigger issue with where we've drafted is the amount of development rope we can give to guys. If we were the Lions when they were shitty, we send Kingsley out there to take his lumps and get better.

Those bad teams have a slight advantage in draft position, yes. But they have an even BIGGER advantage in developmental rope. They can let their raw rookies get beat up and learn. We cannot.

[Dunerdr]

That is a fantastic point. And an un recognized part of what makes sustained success so damn hard.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

That is a fantastic point. And an un recognized part of what makes sustained success so damn hard.

Though that sort of thing might be a little easier if you wouldn't take that rookie, throw him into the deepest end of the pool and then not even consider tossing him a life preserver...

I mean I get that it's hard to break in a rookie. But trying to do that at LT and not doing anything to your offense to help was...not great.

Feels like they had a better idea with Fisher -- put him at RT and work him up slowly. Give him a little help from the TE set on the strong side. Have him be in a spot where the QB can see him a little easier.

Maaaaaybe tossing untested guys into the LT spot was a poor decision and something of an unforced error even despite our desires to contend. Could've put Taylor over at LT and Kingsley/Morris at RT and things wouldn't have been nearly so rocky, IMO.