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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:31 AM   #1801
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I’d like to tell Geoff, hey, maybe we should go out and try to find another Mitchell Schwartz instead of giving him a raise or extension.

I mean it’d be hard as **** to find another one and Pat’s protection would suffer, but at least we’d save a few million!
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:33 AM   #1802
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Yeah that was kinda odd. I do agree with Geoff that Chris Jones has more value than Tyreek Hill and if we had to choose, I’d take Jones.

Tyreek is special, but there are always going to be good WR’s available. There are rarely guys like Chris Jones that come around very often. There aren’t many humans that are that big, that fast and that strong with talent like him.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:35 AM   #1803
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Yeah that was kinda odd. I do agree with Geoff that Chris Jones has more value than Tyreek Hill and if we had to choose, I’d take Jones.

Tyreek is special, but there are always going to be good WR’s available. There are rarely guys like Chris Jones that come around very often. There aren’t many humans that are that big, that fast and that strong with talent like him.
There are more guys that are physically like Chris Jones in the NFL than there are guys that are physically like Tyreek Hill. Just saying...
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:37 AM   #1804
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There are more guys that are physically like Chris Jones in the NFL than there are guys that are physically like Tyreek Hill. Just saying...
This.

You ****ing lock up Hill first 100 times out of 100.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:39 AM   #1805
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It’s an interesting point in that theoretically you’ve got Mahomes so you’re gonna have to depend on him to make some chicken salad sometimes with the WRs

But hill is pretty important to the offense so they’ll pay him
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:40 AM   #1806
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There’s a big difference between good WRs and special WRs
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:40 AM   #1807
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The Chiefs didn't even find Tyreek Hill in the draft. The player he is today is massively different from the guy they drafted. He has grown so much as a WR. They can't spend 3 years developing another speed guy just to get back to where they are now, right when we have to pay Mahomes. Ride this wave.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:43 AM   #1808
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Without Hill, Mahomes does go for 50 and 5K.... I’m sure of that
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:49 AM   #1809
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Mahomes is rare in the fact that he doesn’t need a ton of talent to look elite.

For the most part of the second half of the season he didn’t have Hunt or Watkins. He still threw for 24 touchdowns.

Hell, he had no problem putting up points against Chris Harris, Talib, Von Miller etc... when he played with backup linemen, receivers, tight ends and running backs.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:55 AM   #1810
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Veach inherited a very messy salary cap situation to put it lightly. Former GM John Dorsey was a master of talent evaluation, but where he always came up short was handling the salary cap. Dorsey married the Chiefs to some very ugly and expensive contracts and it ultimately cost him his job.

He was always a year too late when it came to extending players like Justin Houston and Eric Berry. Houston was reaching the final two years of his rookie contract in 2013-14, and rather than working out a deal before the start of either of those seasons, Dorsey opted to wait and watched him have a career year with 22 sacks.




As mush as we all have loved Houston, it’s time for the Chiefs to say good-bye in 2019.
How the **** is Dorsey supposed to pay Houston when he has a gun at his head telling him to pay Commander McGimp Leg first? And don't even get me started on Berry.

One of these days I want to have a sit down with John Dorsey. No interview, no filming or taping, I just want to get get HIS take on what went down in KC because I'm getting REALLY ****ing tired of these false narratives regarding cap mismanagement. If the Head Coach and Owner are flat out TELLING you who gets signed, WHEN they get signed, and what you're going to give them, then how the **** is that HIS fault? It's bullshit.

And now THIS media clown wants to trade the OLB on the backside of his career, whose value is far less than the younger pass rusher that we could actually get REAL value for, assuming we can find a team willing to overlook his inability to play 16 games more than one season in a row, and keep the guy with ZERO mental acuity and leadership experience.
Great idea!

The people who want to keep Dee Ford will probably get their reeruned wish. But I've taken notes and when this turd ends up on the bench( most likely )or performs another brain fart in a crucial situation, I'm coming for scalps with no mercy shown.
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The Athletic's Nate Taylor believes there's a good chance the Chiefs release OLB Justin Houston this offseason.

Houston just turned 30 last month and has two years left on his contract. He's due to count a team-high $21.1 million against the cap in 2019. It's doable for the Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes on a rookie contract, but Houston's play has slipped in recent years from superstar status to above-average pass rusher. Injuries have played a part. Fellow OLB Dee Ford is also set for free agency this year, but the Chiefs have reportedly considered the franchise tag for him.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:08 PM   #1812
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I just wanna know exactly how much ****ing cap space they’ve got.

Taylor speculates that it’s around $32M, which makes keeping Ford and Houston more plausible if they want to go that route with having a bunch of high quality pass rushers.
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Mahomes is rare in the fact that he doesn’t need a ton of talent to look elite.

For the most part of the second half of the season he didn’t have Hunt or Watkins. He still threw for 24 touchdowns.

Hell, he had no problem putting up points against Chris Harris, Talib, Von Miller etc... when he played with backup linemen, receivers, tight ends and running backs.
Know what’s crazy?

Tyreek didn’t catch a pass in the 2nd half
Kelce only had 23 yards and didn’t score
We only had 30 total rushing yards from our running game

We still scored 31 points.
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I just wanna know exactly how much ****ing cap space they’ve got.

Taylor speculates that it’s around $32M, which makes keeping Ford and Houston more plausible if they want to go that route with having a bunch of high quality pass rushers.
According to Spotrac.com we're sitting at $25.5 million in cap space.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:24 PM   #1815
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I just wanna know exactly how much ****ing cap space they’ve got.

Taylor speculates that it’s around $32M, which makes keeping Ford and Houston more plausible if they want to go that route with having a bunch of high quality pass rushers.
It's going to be great when they spend their entire cap keeping Ford and Houston and neither one of them are healthy for the entire season next year.
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