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Old 09-18-2015, 09:43 AM  
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Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach
Andy Reid got depantsed in the Super Bowl by Bruce Arians.

Bruce ****ing Arians and Tom ****ing Brady.

Well, you see, Andy Reid is an offensive genius, and how dare we question Andy Reid's genius in not running the ball and not utilizing the screen pass in the face of an epically brutal pass rush, a patchwork offensive line and a QB with a hurt toe?

How dare we question his geniusness?
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:20 PM   #1801
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Believe it or not, that's how almost every NFL team works. Heck, it's how big business in general works.

Actually, Marty took some accountability after the 97 loss. I would have preferred he just start Gannon instead and then win or lose, at least we would KNOW we had the best team on the field.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:20 PM   #1802
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Isn't it amazing how ONE PLAYER has made such a difference? This team is nowhere NEAR the playoffs or sniffing them in 2018 without PMII.
Yeah ... we haven't made the playoffs once in the last 5 years.

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Yeah ... we haven't made the playoffs once in the last 5 years.

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What other AVAILABLE QB post-Smith could have done this?
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I tried to find an article to link it but couldn't. Anyway it was analysis of Andy Reid's timeout usage this season.

Basically it said when the CHiefs have called an offensive timeout this season which was the vast majority of their timeout usage, the next play resulted in a 1st down or score something like 81% of the time. Far and away the best in the league.

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https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...d-theres-proof

Edit:link was broken, fixed now
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I tried to find an article to link it but couldn't. Anyway it was analysis of Andy Reid's timeout usage this season.

Basically it said when the CHiefs have called an offensive timeout this season which was the vast majority of their timeout usage, the next play resulted in a 1st down or score something like 95% of the time. Far and away the best in the league.
Encouraging. Now, what is the third down conversion rate for the regular season 2018 vs 2017?
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What other QB post-Smith could have done this?
Perhaps I misunderstood the intent of your post, or you misunderstood mine, Mr. Sweet Daddy Hate. Either way, it appears we're talking past each other.

Just to clarify ... Wally has done a masterful job of getting this team into the playoffs since he arrived. I don't believe that's up for debate at this point. Could AS11 have gotten us the #1 seed? I highly doubt it. But to say that AS11 couldn't have gotten this team into the playoffs is reverse prognostication at its most unconvincing since Wally's history with AS11 disagrees.

That was my point ... if I remember it correctly.

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I tried to find an article to link it but couldn't. Anyway it was analysis of Andy Reid's timeout usage this season.

Basically it said when the CHiefs have called an offensive timeout this season which was the vast majority of their timeout usage, the next play resulted in a 1st down or score something like 95% of the time. Far and away the best in the league.
I think this is more Mahomes than Reid, because in the past we would call a timeout then shit the bed right away.
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I think this is more Mahomes than Reid, because in the past we would call a timeout then shit the bed right away.
No, Mr. Marcellus is correct. I think it might have been a PFF or Bleacher or Pro Football Talk article (I don't recall). I read it and it was a nice analysis that debunked the myth that Wally's usage of timeouts speaks to "poor time management".

I wish I could find the article. It was well researched (and I assume it that research was accurate).

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Perhaps I misunderstood the intent of your post, or you misunderstood mine, Mr. Sweet Daddy Hate. Either way, it appears we're talking past each other.

Just to clarify ... Wally has done a masterful job of getting this team into the playoffs since he arrived. I don't believe that's up for debate at this point. Could AS11 have gotten us the #1 seed? I highly doubt it. But to say that AS11 couldn't have gotten this team into the playoffs is reverse prognostication at its most unconvincing since Wally's history with AS11 disagrees.

That was my point ... if I remember it correctly.

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Two points in my post:

1) No other available QB option could have worked this team to the #1 seed post Smith.

2) Without Mahomes, several games that were contests to the end would have been lost, and there would have been no chance whatsoever in those high-scoring shootouts, even though we lost by one or two points. The defense had degenerated THAT badly. And honestly, this team would have had to scratch and claw for a wild card in 2018 were Smith still here IMO.
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If after the 2-14 2012 season when the Chiefs were a dumpster fire, you were told the following would take place with the new head coach:

The Chiefs would immediately climb back to respectability in year one, then make the playoffs in 5 of the next 6 seasons. In year five, they would draft a potential Hall of Fame quarterback who would possibly win the MVP in his first year starting and then get the #1 seed in the playoffs. Who wouldn't sign up for that?

Sure, Dorsey gets some credit. Veach gets some credit. But none of this happens if Reid isn't hired back in 2012.
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No, Mr. Marcellus is correct. I think it might have been a PFF or Bleacher or Pro Football Talk article (I don't recall). I read it and it was a nice analysis that debunked the myth that Wally's usage of timeouts speaks to "poor time management".

I wish I could find the article. It was well researched (and I assume it that research was accurate).

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https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...d-theres-proof

Here you go FAX, and the fact that McCarthy was one of the worst at wasting timeouts kind of deflates the idea Reid's success was all Mahomes.

Thats like saying if Vance Joseph coached Mahomes he would be just as good as he is now.
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Look at the head coaches being hired this year. Laugh. Be happy we have Reid.
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Here you go FAX, and the fact that McCarthy was one of the worst at wasting timeouts kind of deflates the idea Reid's success was all Mahomes.

Thats like saying if Vance Joseph coached Mahomes he would be just as good as he is now.
How in god's name do you tie McCarthy to Mahomes?

And if Vance Joseph coached Mahomes, Mahomes would still be Mahomes. Would he come blasting out of the gate and set TD records and all of the other fireworks in his first year as a starter? Probably not. But not even an idiot like Joseph or a drunkard like Elway could keep PMII from becoming what he was obviously destined to be.

PMII takes Lions, Bears, and Bengals to Super Bowls. PMII takes Falcons to dynasties. PMII is the goddamned zoo keeper and Beastmaster all in one, son. You just be grateful he landed HERE.

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Look at the head coaches being hired this year. Laugh. Be happy we have Reid.
No doubt. MASSIVE bag o' dicks this year except Arians, I guess.
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No, Mr. Marcellus is correct. I think it might have been a PFF or Bleacher or Pro Football Talk article (I don't recall). I read it and it was a nice analysis that debunked the myth that Wally's usage of timeouts speaks to "poor time management".

I wish I could find the article. It was well researched (and I assume it that research was accurate).

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Well if that's true I blame battered fan syndrome. I can remember a lot of CUTE plays that backfired after timeouts maybe because they stick out.
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Look at the head coaches being hired this year. Laugh. Be happy we have Reid.
If we lose tomorrow, Reid will have no accomplishments over any of those new coaches.
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