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[TwistedChief]

Al Qaeda vs ISIS on display tonight!

Here’s to our Osama bin Laden - Joe Burrow!

Go Bengals!

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix

What do you do for work that you lose coworkers on the job?

fluffer in the monster cox series

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix

What do you do for work that you lose coworkers on the job?

I've dealt with 2 deaths while I was at work in my career, both of them cardiac arrests.

One the facility never shut down, the other we shutdown for about 12 hours.

I wont try to compare my military experience.

[arrwheader]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I've dealt with 2 deaths while I was at work in my career, both of them cardiac arrests.



One the facility never shut down, the other we shutdown for about 12 hours.

A few years ago my boss found my coworker dead in his car after work. We all walked past his car going home not knowing. He died from a heart attack. Everyone was at work the next day and it was business as usual.

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[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

What happened to Hamlin is more immediate and direct than maybe anything that's ever happened to a player in the NFL, but that is true and that's the other unspoken thing here with all this. We're all watching a sport here where guys are literally destroying their bodies and their brains for our entertainment (granted they are at least well compensated for it). We just don't have to see the results of that 20-30 years down the road for these guys, but it is happening and it is shortening lifespans. Where do you draw the line with stuff like this?

If I would have been faster, i would have signed up for this in a heartbeat.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by emaw1979

I feel for the family, loved ones and teammates of Hamlin.

It may seem callus but as someone who handles death or serious injury frequently in my line of work don’t understand the inability to play the game last night or today. Most people don’t get the luxury of not working when tragedy strikes in the workplace. They grieve, they push through it. It’s part of life. I have lost coworkers on the job and have been there for people who’ve also suffered loss. We continued on and we certainly grieved.

Have we become such an emotionally immature civilization that we can’t handle grief now? What is the line now for NFL players and injuries? Will they stop games for all serious injuries or just heart attacks? What about broken bones? While serious, most aren’t life threatening, so they are probably ok.

While the NFL is a multi billion dollar industry that has become so much bigger than a game.

i think forcing people to continue working after experiencing trauma to the level of death is far more emotionally immature than giving people the proper time to grieve.

Im glad people my age dont put work above human life anymore.

[Chaunceythe3rd]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Lost alot of respect for Ryan Clark tonight and his knee jerk grandstanding.

This.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

Belcher was a Saturday they made the Chiefs play the next day

They wouldn't do that in 2023.

I'm not sure another game will finish if someone has a serious injury like Dennis Byrd or Shazier. It's a changing culture.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix

Lots of rumors and speculation around Buffalo that the Bills may forfeit the Patriots game too. None of the players have interest in practicing, getting ready, playing, etc. No idea if this is true or hog wash but that’s what i’m hearing and seeing.

I don't think that will happen. I don't think Damar would want that... Also, prognosis can be good if they get to a patient right away, they did in this case, so hopefully he will be OK. My guess is they play tomorrow and then the Bengals and Bills are moved to next Monday, or they push the season back a week. The last one would be tough.

I hope they don't forfeit this game and then folks would be mad at the Chiefs for getting the #1 for no reason. I'm sad for the events last night, but Cinci looked like they were dialed in and the outcome most likely would have been a loss anyways.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

Belcher was a Saturday they made the Chiefs play the next day

If they came in the next morning and said we're not going to play, that game never would of happened.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

They wouldn't do that in 2023.

I'm not sure another game will finish if someone has a serious injury like Dennis Byrd or Shazier. It's a changing culture.

They will continue games if it is not life threatening, this was a unique situation. Also, Belcher happening the day before, they would most likely play or postpone to Monday based on what the team elects especially for an off the field death.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

If they came in the next morning and said we're not going to play, that game never would of happened.

The prevailing opinion was that playing the next day would bring the team together more than not playing. It was cathartic so to speak.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by kstater

In case people are wondering if stupid is just limited to message boards. Within 5 minutes at work, had a co worker say it was because of vaccine.

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Then why share that here? God, you're doing the same thing telling this story. Just stop.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by emaw1979

I feel for the family, loved ones and teammates of Hamlin.

It may seem callus but as someone who handles death or serious injury frequently in my line of work don’t understand the inability to play the game last night or today. Most people don’t get the luxury of not working when tragedy strikes in the workplace. They grieve, they push through it. It’s part of life. I have lost coworkers on the job and have been there for people who’ve also suffered loss. We continued on and we certainly grieved.

Have we become such an emotionally immature civilization that we can’t handle grief now? What is the line now for NFL players and injuries? Will they stop games for all serious injuries or just heart attacks? What about broken bones? While serious, most aren’t life threatening, so they are probably ok.

While the NFL is a multi billion dollar industry that has become so much bigger than a game.

You answered your question here.

The NFL gained nothing from a PR standpoint by sending those guys back out there to play. And again, even before the game was called, you had people saying "I don't see how these guys can possibly have the focus to go play..."

A simple football play yielding a broken leg would've been blamed on the NFL's decision to go back and play. And if the kid dies during the game, the NFL would've been excoriated for it. And if he is revived during the game...so what? Nobody's gonna say "Phew - it sure is a good thing the NFL kept playing...."

Nope, they'd have still been barbecued for it.

There was NOTHING to be gained by the league. And that's why they cancelled it. Literally every possible eventuality would've been viewed in the most negative possible light against the NFL.

Could the players have played? Yeah, I actually think they could've. For some of the reasons previously stated.

But from a league standpoint did it make any sense at all for them to send those guys back out there? Not even a little. That was a decision that could've been nothing but disastrous for them. It's the kind of thing that could've cost Goodell his cushy $20 million/yr job and cost the league tens of millions in advertising dollars.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Lost alot of respect for Ryan Clark tonight and his knee jerk grandstanding.

Yeah, that was when I turned it off and watched Ford vs. Ferrari instead.

I'm sorry, but I'm 100% convinced that there's been a TON of performance art over the last 12 hours.

[George Liquor]

Is SVP the only good ESPN media personality left? I'm watching Mina Kimes, Stephen A Smith and some broad that looks like she got shot with the Simpsons makeup gun.

I think the other dude is Bart Scott? He isn't too bad I suppose.