Star Wars: The Mandalorian

[Hammock Parties]

Jon Favreau is directing this live-action TV series.

Looks TIGHT.

Production on the first Star Wars live-action streaming series has begun!

After the stories of Jango and Boba Fett, another warrior emerges in the Star Wars universe. The Mandalorian is set after the fall of the Empire and before the emergence of the First Order. We follow the travails of a lone gunfighter in the outer reaches of the galaxy far from the authority of the New Republic.

The series will be written and executive produced by Emmy-nominated producer and actor Jon Favreau, as previously announced, with Dave Filoni (Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Star Wars Rebels) directing the first episode.

Additional episodic directors include Deborah Chow (Jessica Jones), Rick Famuyiwa (Dope), Bryce Dallas Howard (Solemates), and Taika Waititi (Thor: Ragnarok).

It will be executive produced by Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni, Kathleen Kennedy, and Colin Wilson. Karen Gilchrist will serve as co-executive producer. Stay tuned to StarWars.com for updates.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

I agree with you. Perhaps folks opposed to granting protections to marginalized groups now see the importance of doing so when the shoe is on the other foot.

I'm tangential to you.

I don't mind at-will employment.
I'm not in favor of targeted protections.

Carano being let go was entirely within Disney's purview.

My main beef here is getting society to react appropriately without the messaging turning it into something it wasn't.

[The Franchise]

Can we move this shit to the DC?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Can we move this shit to the DC?

Might as well move everything there, it's all going to be politicized eventually.

[BigRichard]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Might as well move everything there, it's all going to be politicized eventually.

Yep. Anyone that thinks this is wrong but yet still buys the product... you are just as much the problem as the ones getting her fired. I bet it would take 6 months to rectify what is going on if anyone could put themselves out just the slightest.

[duncan_idaho]

If you want to talk about the political aspect of this, go create a thread in the DC cesspool and cry about it there.

[Buehler445]

OK, I don't want this to become DC, so I'll limit myself to one post here spoilered anything that could be DC.

Here's my position. This one took me a minute.

Caveat: I didn't bother to look up the tweets. When I saw some were deleted, I didn't figure I'd get the whole story anyway.

Spoiler!

Based on what's been posted here, I pretty much agree with her sentiment. Virtue signaling, cancel culture, all of it is unproductive, and at some point becomes dangerous. I'm not smart enough to know when it tips the scale there, but it is.

And hypocrisy abound, we all know that. Hypocrisy everywhere. It's bullshit and it sucks.

HOWEVER

Spoiler!

I'm also the guy that will die on the hill of "don't tell me how to run my business." Just like I don't want to be exposed to regulation requiring me to hire LGBTQwhatever crowd, or more importantly, fire someone of some protected class if they aren't representing my business well.

Similar to how I thing the cake guy shouldn't be required to bake the gay wedding cake, I, by definition should allow Disney to fire employees they don't feel represent their business well.

Because while I don't necessarily feel it's the same thing, but I'll push back when someone loud whines about not getting a front of house job while being loud, people on the other end politically from me probably do feel like it's the same thing.

Accordingly, I've taken the position that if people should respect business owners right to do business, I need to respect Disney's.

Moreover, it's dumb to get loud on anything controversial. It was dumb for Carano to do it about what she did, and it's also dumb for Pascal to do it too, even though he got away with it. It's still ****ing risky and stupid. It's stupid for Holywood types to do it, no different than it is for me to do it with potential or current landlords, suppliers, customers, whatever. It's stupid and Carano got burned.

tl;dr (or in this case, too long; didn't DC)
I agree at least to some extent agree with her message, but it's stupid of her to do it and I support Disney's right to shitcan her.

[DJJasonp]

imagine 20 years ago, and how companies employed many dumbasses with dumbass beliefs, etc..........

......and they had no idea........and people kept their jobs.

[notorious]

I don’t care what your beliefs are, don’t let them bleed into the final product and I’m good to go.

[DaneMcCloud]

This is what I've been told in the past 18 hours since the decision was made:

Disney contacted UTA, Carano's talent agency, more than a dozen times in the past calendar year to ask her to refrain from posting inflammatory comments on social media. She refused.

She continued to post inflammatory comments after the election but this time, Dave Filoni contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused. Finally, Jon Favreau contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused.

Disney felt they had no choice but to fire her, as did her talent agency.

Disney isn't going to "die on the hill" of a D-list actress. All she had to do to keep her job was to refrain from posting on social media and all would have been fine.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is what I've been told in the past 18 hours since the decision was made:

Disney contacted UTA, Carano's talent agency, more than a dozen times in the past calendar year to ask her to refrain from posting inflammatory comments on social media. She refused.

She continued to post inflammatory comments after the election but this time, Dave Filoni contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused. Finally, Jon Favreau contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused.

Disney felt they had no choice but to fire her, as did her talent agency.

Disney isn't going to "die on the hill" of a D-list actress. All she had to do to keep her job was to refrain from posting on social media and all would have been fine.

Sucks, but I don't think it's in her DNA to back down from a fight.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is what I've been told in the past 18 hours since the decision was made:

Disney contacted UTA, Carano's talent agency, more than a dozen times in the past calendar year to ask her to refrain from posting inflammatory comments on social media. She refused.

She continued to post inflammatory comments after the election but this time, Dave Filoni contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused. Finally, Jon Favreau contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused.

Disney felt they had no choice but to fire her, as did her talent agency.

Disney isn't going to "die on the hill" of a D-list actress. All she had to do to keep her job was to refrain from posting on social media and all would have been fine.

No surprise. I figured it was the pattern of stupid posts that did her in, not this single one off post yesterday. This was simply the final straw.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is what I've been told in the past 18 hours since the decision was made:

Disney contacted UTA, Carano's talent agency, more than a dozen times in the past calendar year to ask her to refrain from posting inflammatory comments on social media. She refused.

She continued to post inflammatory comments after the election but this time, Dave Filoni contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused. Finally, Jon Favreau contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused.

Disney felt they had no choice but to fire her, as did her talent agency.

Disney isn't going to "die on the hill" of a D-list actress. All she had to do to keep her job was to refrain from posting on social media and all would have been fine.

If that's accurate, they had no choice. Which, given what we know, there's no reason to disbelieve anything here.

That's wild she'd set fire to her career like that. I guess the other side is she had the stones to stand up for what she believes. Just not the course I'd have chosen.

Thanks for posting.

EDIT: Disney gave her far more rope than Buehler445 would have.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

EDIT: Disney gave her far more rope than Buehler445 would have.

Yep.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

If that's accurate, they had no choice. Which, given what we know, there's no reason to disbelieve anything here.

That's wild she'd set fire to her career like that. I guess the other side is she had the stones to stand up for what she believes. Just not the course I'd have chosen.

Thanks for posting.

EDIT: Disney gave her far more rope than Buehler445 would have.

The choice point wasn't the vendor, but the customer.

Disney didn't like the feedback from customers, but the customers being out of pocket is the problem.

The same as those complaining to the FCC in the past about the promiscuity and blaspheming on the airwaves in the past.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

No surprise. I figured it was the pattern of stupid posts that did her in, not this single one off post yesterday. This was simply the final straw.

It doesn't matter if the posts are stupid or not. When your employer asks you to back off you probably need to do it.