Eric Bieniemy is Available Again!

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Sources: Eric Bieniemy out after one season as UCLA's offensive coordinator

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sources...174950381.html

Nick Bromberg

Eric Bieniemy’s UCLA tenure lasted a season.

The Bruins are moving on from Bieniemy, sources told Yahoo Sports’ Ross Dellenger. The former Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator and NFL running back joined UCLA’s staff in 2024 as the offensive coordinator and assistant head coach following the hire of Deshaun Foster as the team’s head coach.

UCLA went 5-7 in 2024 and was 3-6 in the Big Ten. The Bruins averaged 5.4 yards a play and scored just 18.4 points per game. Only eight teams across the top level of college football averaged fewer points than the Bruins and UCLA scored more than 20 points just twice all season.

Bieniemy, 55, interviewed multiple times for NFL head coaching positions while he was the Chiefs’ offensive coordinator. He joined Andy Reid’s staff in 2013 when Reid became the Chiefs’ head coach and was the team’s running backs coach through the 2017 season. He was promoted to offensive coordinator in 2018 as Patrick Mahomes became the team’s starting quarterback.

However, Bieniemy never got a head coaching job in the NFL and moved on from the Chiefs after the 2022 season. Five NFL teams had job openings that offseason and he interviewed for just one.

Bieniemy became the offensive coordinator for the Washington Commanders in 2023, but he spent just one season with the team as the organization went through wholesale changes following the season. Washington’s new ownership group changed the coaching staff and hired Dan Quinn as the team’s head coach with former Arizona Cardinals head coach Kliff Kingsbury serving as the offensive coordinator for No. 2 overall draft pick Jayden Daniels.

Before coaching for the Chiefs, Bieniemy was the offensive coordinator at his alma mater, Colorado, for two seasons and had served as an assistant coach with the Minnesota Vikings. It’s unclear just where Bieniemy’s next coaching stop will be and it’d have been hard to fathom four years ago that Bieniemy would be leaving his third job in three seasons at the end of 2024 instead of being the head coach of an NFL team.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

LOL

I've repeatedly said "outside of KC". Find literally ANYTHING from outside of KC that supports your argument. You can't and that's clear so you just keep talking in circles.

Nagy had nothing like the resume EB has, got fired from the Bears and was brought back. Why can't we do the same for EB?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Nagy had nothing like the resume EB has, got fired from the Bears and was brought back. Why can't we do the same for EB?

Nagy took Mitch Trubisky to the playoffs TWICE. with a team that has made the playoffs five times since 2000.

I would do the same for EB but I can't find anything even remotely similar on his resume. Could you find something for me?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So Spags winning a championship matters but EB's two with KC doesn't?

Can I write this easier for you?

FIND SOME CORROBORATING EVIDENCE FROM THEIR CAREERS OUTSIDE OF KC.

Spags won a Super Bowl outside of KC. Matt Nagy went to two playoffs outside of KC. Pederson won a Super Bowl outside of KC.

Outside of KC, EB has been fired a few times and nobody wants to hire him.

This would be a lot better if you would just think about this. It's not hard, you just have to be willing to accept reality.

[htismaqe]

And again, I'm not against bringing EB back in any role, even offensive coordinator. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna saint a guy who hasn't proven he's good at anything. If they want to bring him back great. It's still Andy's offense and it's success or failure goes the way Pat goes.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Can I write this easier for you?

FIND SOME CORROBORATING EVIDENCE FROM THEIR CAREERS OUTSIDE OF KC.

Spags won a Super Bowl outside of KC. Matt Nagy went to two playoffs outside of KC. Pederson won a Super Bowl outside of KC.

Outside of KC, EB has been fired a few times and nobody wants to hire him.

This would be a lot better if you would just think about this. It's not hard, you just have to be willing to accept reality.

I'm not asking EB to be successful outside of KC. Statistically he is the greatest OC in Chiefs history, with no close second. Just come back and do that again.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nagy took Mitch Trubisky to the playoffs TWICE. with a team that has made the playoffs five times since 2000.

I would do the same for EB but I can't find anything even remotely similar on his resume. Could you find something for me?

He wasn't given a HC job like Nagy. Hhhmm I wonder why?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

He wasn't given a HC job like Nagy. Hhhmm I wonder why?

Because he's not a good coach and nobody likes him.

Plus you have the fact that EB has zero success sans Mahomes. Alex Smith had by far his best season as a pro under Nagy and was in the MVP discussion like 10 weeks into that season.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Can I write this easier for you?

FIND SOME CORROBORATING EVIDENCE FROM THEIR CAREERS OUTSIDE OF KC.

Spags won a Super Bowl outside of KC. Matt Nagy went to two playoffs outside of KC. Pederson won a Super Bowl outside of KC.

Outside of KC, EB has been fired a few times and nobody wants to hire him.

This would be a lot better if you would just think about this. It's not hard, you just have to be willing to accept reality.

Lol why does it matter what he does outside of KC? Smh what he's done WITH KC is what many of us want back. Don't give a damn about his other stints where he was forced to coach poor qb's

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by wazu

I'm not asking EB to be successful outside of KC. Statistically he is the greatest OC in Chiefs history, with no close second. Just come back and do that again.

Except you have no evidence he can. He didn't have this set of WRs or these LTs or all of these injuries to deal with. He had Mahomes and Kelce and quite a few good players while he was here.

We can play this game all day but you simply have no proof that EB could recreate what he did here previously. The only actual evidence we have without factoring in Andy and Mahomes is his career outside of KC and he's been bad.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because he's not a good coach and nobody likes him.

Plus you have the fact that EB has zero success sans Mahomes. Alex Smith had by far his best season as a pro under Nagy and was in the MVP discussion like 10 weeks into that season.

EB is the greatest OC this team has ever had. FACT. Why does he have to prove himself elsewhere?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

All of those issues could be the result of something else. Bad players, hurt players, personnel and playbook changes, position coaches like Heck and Embree.

Have you never done data analysis before? You need to eliminate those variables and the only way isolate EB's performance is to look at his resume outside of KC.

Consistently and continuously fired, not wanted by anyone else, and in general not popular amongst former players and coaches. But yeah, it's racism, or circumstances or whatever that has caused Bienemy to not succeed. Can't possibly be himself

But by that measure Nagy is also a failure. And Kafka. And I don't think that's the case. You are grading EB by his performance outside of KC as a playcaller and as a people manager. And those may not necessarily be his strengths. Isn't it possible that he is in a long line of coaches who are exceptional assistants without being great managers? Think we can all agree that Washington and UCLA were bad fits for lots of different reasons. Even most people here seem to think oc or the special role carved out for him to audition for a hc job were too much for him. I don't think this is proof at all that eb couldnt cut it being relegated to a rbs coach. It just means he isn't hc or oc material, especially for an offense with a bad roster

Which is what makes the chiefs OC position different because as we all know, Reid micromanages a lot of that responsibility. So you can hide some of those weaknesses. Nagy might be a good example of that.

Yes injuries, talent and continuity play a big part. But it's apparent to everyone that we also make way too many undisciplined mistakes too. That doesn't mean EB solves all of that. Correlation doesn't always equal causation but it does seem just a little curious that a lot of these silly mistakes become a frequent problem after you lose the guy whose reputation was to be a tyrant about executed on small details. we can't judge his performance by roles that don't fit him. The best way to find out is to see how he performs relegated to a role better suited for him. And all the info before he got promoted too high was that he was an exceptional assistant. Good enough to catch reids eye that this dude deserved to be his top offensive assistant

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Lol why does it matter what he does outside of KC? Smh what he's done WITH KC is what many of us want back. Don't give a damn about his other stints where he was forced to coach poor qb's

Because wanting him to come back and do it again flies in the face of reality. He's not a magic wand. His time outside of KC is the ONLY evidence we have of what he might do without Mahomes. And that evidence suggest he's not a good coach.

Your like a 14-year old with a crush.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

EB is the greatest OC this team has ever had. FACT. Why does he have to prove himself elsewhere?

You don't understand the meaning of coincidence.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Except you have no evidence he can. He didn't have this set of WRs or these LTs or all of these injuries to deal with. He had Mahomes and Kelce and quite a few good players while he was here.

We can play this game all day but you simply have no proof that EB could recreate what he did here previously. The only actual evidence we have without factoring in Andy and Mahomes is his career outside of KC and he's been bad.

Where's your proof that he can't recreate it? He's been great with Mahomes and would be coming back to who? Oh yes MAHOMES so why wouldn't something that worked for FIVE YEARS and brought us two Championships work now?

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You don't understand the meaning of coincidence.

Lol five years of success is reduced to being "a coincidence"??? I've heard it all now