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Old 09-10-2012, 11:28 AM  
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Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again.
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with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again.

Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle...

And also, who the **** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round?

Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ****ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks.

honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the ****ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:25 PM   #151
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Some of you guys are ridiculous. That Chiefs defense, without Berry, was 11th overall last year, and 4th in the second half of last season after those dreadful first few games where the whole team was unprepared.

Didn't you see watch Chiefs football when this D was dominant against Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady for a half?

What did you guys really expect to do against probably a top 3-5 passing offense, when missing your two most important players against the pass in Hali and Flowers and a guy like Lewis who is underrated and whom is good in coverage, better than Elam?

Between Hali, Houston, and Poe and Bailey when they develop, the Chiefs are fine at passrushing.

Remember, 6th in passing defense last year despite no Erib Berry and playing the likes of Rodgers, Big Ben, Brady and others.

As for Dorsey and Jackson, they are solid players. You just can't hit on every first round pick, no matter how high. Compare the Chiefs first round picks since 2005 with the rest of the league, the Chiefs have had great success with their 1st round picks overall.

Chiefs fans continually underestimate Brandon Carr, a lockdown corner who we need. Remember the last game of the year when we played Denver? We were able to stack the box to contain Tebow and the running game and play lockdown man to man on the outside with Carr and Flowers, do you think we could do that with Routt?
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:28 PM   #152
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Chiefs fans continually underestimate Brandon Carr, a lockdown corner who we need. Remember the last game of the year when we played Denver? We were able to stack the box to contain Tebow and the running game and play lockdown man to man on the outside with Carr and Flowers, do you think we could do that with Routt?
No kidding. Remember the game Brandon Lloyd came into Arrowhead leading the league in receiving yards and Carr covered him all day and held him to zero catches? I'm happy to see the guy get a chance to be the #1 and follow receivers wherever they go. He's one of the best cover corners in the league and it's cool to see him shadow people.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:29 PM   #153
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Not yet. You have to ask me nicely.
That's what I thought.

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Old 09-10-2012, 02:30 PM   #154
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No kidding. Remember the game Brandon Lloyd came into Arrowhead leading the league in receiving yards and Carr covered him all day and held him to zero catches? I'm happy to see the guy get a chance to be the #1 and follow receivers wherever they go. He's one of the best cover corners in the league and it's cool to see him shadow people.
ya, letting Carr go is gonna be right up there with Joe Horn and Rich Gannon.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:31 PM   #155
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That's what I thought.

Go **** yourself. You have no credibility around here.
He is coaching linebackers at Ohio State. Ask nicely and quit being a dick and I'll show you. Otherwise, just put it on your list Mr. Meany pants. Isn't this exactly like the DJ argument? I mean is it common place to know that DJ misses tackles and Vrabel taught Tamba as well as Studebaker?
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:33 PM   #156
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ya, letting Carr go is gonna be right up there with Joe Horn and Rich Gannon.
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well i see that this thread has turned to total shit.

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well you shouldn't have posted in it and it would still be fine.
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Chiefs fans continually underestimate Brandon Carr, a lockdown corner who we need. Remember the last game of the year when we played Denver? We were able to stack the box to contain Tebow and the running game and play lockdown man to man on the outside with Carr and Flowers, do you think we could do that with Routt?
Carr was real good but Routt is not much of a downgrade. Routt is in fact the best number 2 corner in the AFC West. As of now, Carr is probably the 15th best corner in this league and Routt around 30th. I've seen Matt Miller (maybe not the most credible but still...) rank Routt higher than Carr back in March, I've seen Raiders fans say Routt is an average number 1 corner or a very good number 2. Really, it's not like we went from Carr to Reeves.
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