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Old 08-01-2022, 08:02 AM  
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Old 11-10-2022, 07:20 AM   #136
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Old 11-10-2022, 08:54 AM   #137
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Finally, a mature grounded Star Wars piece of media. I'm all caught up and it's fantastic.

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Old 11-10-2022, 10:19 AM   #138
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Amazing episode.

Serkis was such a pleasant surprise in this series.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:22 PM   #139
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Man - this is REALLY good.

And man, Stellan Skarsgard is so ****ing great. He brings such intensity and weight to any role.

Though Diego Luna will always be Button from Open Range to me.
He's just so goddamn good at this...

If that wasn't the best speech in Star Wars cannon....**** it, it WAS. That guy is remarkable.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:22 PM   #140
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Man - this is REALLY good.

And man, Stellan Skarsgard is so ****ing great. He brings such intensity and weight to any role.

Though Diego Luna will always be Button from Open Range to me.
He's just so goddamn good at this...

If that wasn't the best speech in Star Wars cannon....**** it, it WAS. That guy is remarkable.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:29 PM   #141
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I didn't really know him before this series. But, holy shit if he isn't an incredible actor. Especially the way he's essentially playing 2 different parts with his secret identity.
Really?

I mean he was hilariously underused in a Wolfgang Puck boiling hot dogs sort of way in the Marvel movies.

But in Midnight in Chernobyl, he was a force. He was really good in one of those Dan Brown movies (I think the second one; it had Ewan McGregor as well, IIRC) - Commander of the Swiss Guard and very typical 'weighty' performance from him.

And you'd probably never pick it up because he was much younger, but he was Tupolev in Hunt for Red October. "We're going to kill a friend, Yvgeni; We're going to kill Ramius..."

I don't know how dynamic an actor he is - but in roles that require real gravitas, he is a slam dunk pick.
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Oh, and a reminder fellas - none of this matters.

Diego Luna lives. He helps get the plans. Then he dies. Then the rebels blow up the death star. Then the empire is replaced by another Empire just like 'em but with an Emo Darth while all your heroes live hollow, tragic existences (before they ALSO die in wholly unfulfilling ways) and then some random Mary Sue shows up and saves the day.

Fuuuuuuuck Yooooooouuuuuu Disney. And Rian Johnson/Kathleen Kennedy in particular.

Ugh.
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Why'd you have to remind us?

They should just pretend the newest trilogy doesn't exist. Stick with what's working and go from there. Build on their successes and reboot the future within the universe.
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Old 11-10-2022, 04:01 PM   #144
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Really?

I mean he was hilariously underused in a Wolfgang Puck boiling hot dogs sort of way in the Marvel movies.

But in Midnight in Chernobyl, he was a force. He was really good in one of those Dan Brown movies (I think the second one; it had Ewan McGregor as well, IIRC) - Commander of the Swiss Guard and very typical 'weighty' performance from him.

And you'd probably never pick it up because he was much younger, but he was Tupolev in Hunt for Red October. "We're going to kill a friend, Yvgeni; We're going to kill Ramius..."

I don't know how dynamic an actor he is - but in roles that require real gravitas, he is a slam dunk pick.
Well hell. That right there just killed my appetite for Star Wars stuff for like the next ten years. Talk about a spoiler, yeesh
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Oh, and a reminder fellas - none of this matters.

Diego Luna lives. He helps get the plans. Then he dies. Then the rebels blow up the death star. Then the empire is replaced by another Empire just like 'em but with an Emo Darth while all your heroes live hollow, tragic existences (before they ALSO die in wholly unfulfilling ways) and then some random Mary Sue shows up and saves the day.

Fuuuuuuuck Yooooooouuuuuu Disney. And Rian Johnson/Kathleen Kennedy in particular.

Ugh.

This here. Nothing else matters, because they already killed Star Wars. Everything now is just taking money from the rubes.
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This here. Nothing else matters, because they already killed Star Wars. Everything now is just taking money from the rubes.
You couldn't have done a better job strangling the life out of a franchise on purpose. And it became apparent how little this bothers them when they half-assed Obi-Wan.

At this point you just have to watch it as stand-along entertainment (which Andor delivers) because the throughput is just completely irrelevant. The franchise is a burnt out husk; a boring old brown dwarf star that should've been a supernova.
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Old 11-10-2022, 05:37 PM   #147
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Why'd you have to remind us?

They should just pretend the newest trilogy doesn't exist. Stick with what's working and go from there. Build on their successes and reboot the future within the universe.
Give it about a decade and someone will have the balls to try it, imho.


And yeah, the Skywalker Saga ends with a wisp of a fart from Super Saiyan Mary Sue-Ku, but I will happily support efforts like this just from quality alone if nothing else. Adult Star Wars >>> Kidtastic Lightsaber/Mega Space Battle Star Wars (even if I do love both).
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Old 11-10-2022, 11:04 PM   #148
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You couldn't have done a better job strangling the life out of a franchise on purpose. And it became apparent how little this bothers them when they half-assed Obi-Wan.

At this point you just have to watch it as stand-along entertainment (which Andor delivers) because the throughput is just completely irrelevant. The franchise is a burnt out husk; a boring old brown dwarf star that should've been a supernova.
They've bungled out a giant portion of the potential of the show. However, I try to enjoy the bits that work and disregard the ones that don't. I'm not really sure how I'm getting that done. Maybe it's because I've been able to keep out some of the cheese all the way back to the 70s.

Even as much as they didn't give a shit about Obi Wan, there were some compelling moments, because Ewan is really good. To throw the whole series away in your mind is to lose the good parts. And I think we're all invested enough to not lose the good parts.

Same with Andor, we know where it's going, but that's not to say we can't appreciate the minutia and good performances.
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Really?

I mean he was hilariously underused in a Wolfgang Puck boiling hot dogs sort of way in the Marvel movies.

But in Midnight in Chernobyl, he was a force. He was really good in one of those Dan Brown movies (I think the second one; it had Ewan McGregor as well, IIRC) - Commander of the Swiss Guard and very typical 'weighty' performance from him.

And you'd probably never pick it up because he was much younger, but he was Tupolev in Hunt for Red October. "We're going to kill a friend, Yvgeni; We're going to kill Ramius..."

I don't know how dynamic an actor he is - but in roles that require real gravitas, he is a slam dunk pick.
Wow. The Hunt for Red October one blows my mind. Thanks.
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Oh, and a reminder fellas - none of this matters.

Diego Luna lives. He helps get the plans. Then he dies. Then the rebels blow up the death star. Then the empire is replaced by another Empire just like 'em but with an Emo Darth while all your heroes live hollow, tragic existences (before they ALSO die in wholly unfulfilling ways) and then some random Mary Sue shows up and saves the day.

Fuuuuuuuck Yooooooouuuuuu Disney. And Rian Johnson/Kathleen Kennedy in particular.

Ugh.
**** that. The sequel trilogy does not exist in the real Star Wars universe. That is in some dystopian alternate universe KK shat out.
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**** that. The sequel trilogy does not exist in the real Star Wars universe. That is in some dystopian alternate universe KK shat out.
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