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Old 08-18-2013, 03:49 PM  
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PFF: Poor game from Fisher
Yup. Very poor game.

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I’m not in the business of making excuses for someone, but how bad is the hand of Eric Fisher (-4.5)? I ask because his performance was of such a level and he seemed to be favoring his hand so often, that the question had to be asked: are the Chiefs doing the right thing getting him game time as opposed to letting him heal?

He had to leave the field after Will Tukuafu got the better of him with 4:05 to go in the first and yet he would return to finish out the first half. That wasn’t the only time he struggled as Ray McDonald was too powerful for him at the point of attack on the opening drive, having no problem working on his inside shoulder and getting off his blocking attempts.

In pass protection, Parys Haralson (hurry and sack), Corey Lemonier (hurry) and Ahmad Brooks (hurry with an assist from some hands to the face) all got past him, while he failed on two occasions to execute cut blocks on stretch runs.

More is expected of the first overall pick.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:44 PM   #721
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I respect that. I do. I make fun of you because you have proven multiple times not matter how polite I am to you, and no matter how I try to be civil with you, you always find a way to insult me.

So I go with that. And I turn it on you.
you think making fun of knuckles is an insult?

I earned that shit. that's respect. Something you will never know.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:50 PM   #722
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Would you think it was smart to sign Derek Jeter to a massive deal and then move him to first base?

No, right?

If they drafted Eric Fisher to play left tackle, then move Albert to guard, trade him for whatever you can get, or move him to the right side.
Not that I disagree with your underlying point, but your analogy is bad.

RT is not first base. Maybe RG is, but RT is not. It's not as difficult as LT but requires similar skills, just less overall athleticism. If LT is SS, then RT is 3b.

Welllllll.....you may recall a pretty damn expensive acquisition with a hell of a pedigree moving into New York that just so happened to play the same position as a well established SS. He slid right on over to 3b to accommodate the incumbent at the harder position.

The problem with moving Fisher over to LT right now is that there's a pretty good chance he would get Alex Smith killed. All that kept Smith intact as guys were blasting past Fisher was the fact that he was fortunate enough to see them coming and athletic enough to get the hell out of the way.

No, moving Fisher to LT right now is not a good idea.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:51 PM   #723
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you think making fun of knuckles is an insult?

I earned that shit. that's respect. Something you will never know.
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What ever you say boss.

Just like I don't know you, you sure as hell don't know me, or what I have done to earn respect. You have your way, and if to you that means being great with your fists, then props to you.

You are right. No one respects me, no one likes me, everyone hates me.

I get it.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:52 PM   #724
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What ever you say boss.

Just like I don't know you, you sure as hell don't know me, or what I have done to earn respect. You have your way, and if to you that means being great with your fists, then props to you.

You are right. No one respects me, no one likes me, everyone hates me.

I get it.
Oh I know exactly the guy you are.

All your shit was posted here remember?
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:54 PM   #725
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It wouldn't matter if Fisher was good anyway drafting a right tackle 1.1 is ****ing stupid. I can't think of 1 good move Dorsey made other than drafting Nico Johnson.
Who did you want?
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:55 PM   #726
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Oh I know exactly the guy you are.

All your shit was posted here remember?
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Lol, the only current shit that was posted, was about me being subpoenaed for child support for a kid that I didn't even know about. All of that other shit, was 10 years old.

You don't know shit about me.

Its cute that you pretend you do.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:58 PM   #727
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Hes a beast. A skinny beast like mingo, but quick as hell.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:01 PM   #729
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Cmon billay

Kelce was a good pick based on upside
Nico was a good pick
Davis can turn out to be a star
Fasano, S. Smith, Avery, Devito, Hussein, Schwartz and Jordan were solid signings.

Paying what Bowe wanted so we could keep Albert was impressive.

Trading that much for Alex, taking Fisher at 1, signing Dante Robinson and going into the season with total crap at nickel corner while trading away Arenas were terrible moves...but they don't all together cancel out the good moves that have been made.
This team has been toward the bottom in sacks for years and the offense has been Bowe and Charles for 3 or 4 seasons now. The team needed more playmakers he didn't really add any.
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Hes a beast. A skinny beast like mingo, but quick as hell.
You can stalk up on corners all you want but the correct way to beat an elite QB like Manning is to get after him.
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You can stalk up on corners all you want but the correct way to beat an elite QB like Manning is to get after him.
I agree. That's why the browns drafted Mingo, they signed Groves, and Kruger.

I completely agree. Now, as to who the best pass rusher was. Me, I think it was Jarvis Jones.
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This team has been toward the bottom in sacks for years and the offense has been Bowe and Charles for 3 or 4 seasons now. The team needed more playmakers he didn't really add any.
They clearly were building around Alex Smiths game with their picks and signings.

Alex doesnt throw to receivers (past the first option, anyway) and they added a couple good tight ends and a back that might just end up being "special"...I saw flashes of real potential from Davis in camp. Larry Johnson type potential.

I disagree with the philosophy, but these guys will make plays because they operate within Alex Smiths comfort zone.
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This team has been toward the bottom in sacks for years and the offense has been Bowe and Charles for 3 or 4 seasons now. The team needed more playmakers he didn't really add any.
Scheme alone is going to help a ton with that. I don't think this defense is elite by any means, but we're going to put a whole lot more pressure.
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They clearly were building around Alex Smiths game with their picks and signings.

Alex doesnt throw to receivers (past the first option, anyway) and they added a couple good tight ends and a back that might just end up being "special"...I saw flashes of real potential from Davis in camp. Larry Johnson type potential.

I disagree with the philosophy, but these guys will make plays because they operate within Alex Smiths comfort zone.
I like to be an optimist. I'm not crazy about the Alex Smith pickup. The optimist view is that if Fisher turns out to be the pick he's projected to be (and I think we need to be patient), we have a solid enough team to possibly be on the bubble of a playoff win or two behind Alex Smith. But if the Chiefs keep swinging for a franchise QB the next 2-3 years and find one, this is a supporting cast good enough to be a legit deep playoff team.
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Avery has playmaking potential. Kelce I think has playmaking potential. In fact, the tight end position in general has been upgraded, across the board. Knile Davis also has gamebreaking speed but needs to continue to work on several areas of his game. They did a lot more than just draft Fisher on offense, in any event.
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