Chiefs PFF: Poor game from Fisher - Page 46

Hammock Parties · 08-18-2013, 03:49 PM

Yup. Very poor game.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...reseason-wk-2/

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Rookie Rollicking

I’m not in the business of making excuses for someone, but how bad is the hand of Eric Fisher (-4.5)? I ask because his performance was of such a level and he seemed to be favoring his hand so often, that the question had to be asked: are the Chiefs doing the right thing getting him game time as opposed to letting him heal?

He had to leave the field after Will Tukuafu got the better of him with 4:05 to go in the first and yet he would return to finish out the first half. That wasn’t the only time he struggled as Ray McDonald was too powerful for him at the point of attack on the opening drive, having no problem working on his inside shoulder and getting off his blocking attempts.

In pass protection, Parys Haralson (hurry and sack), Corey Lemonier (hurry) and Ahmad Brooks (hurry with an assist from some hands to the face) all got past him, while he failed on two occasions to execute cut blocks on stretch runs.

More is expected of the first overall pick.

Pablo · 08-21-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Just move Albert to guard and draft a REAL RT next year in the first.

Superlative trolling.

**SAUTO** · 08-21-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Hey, I may be a clown, and admittedly so, but you, after that tough guy bullshit you pulled yesterday, there is no way that you could be anything BUT a clown.

Yeah I'm a clown for getting pissed people were joking and making light and degrading people outraged about a terrible situation involving a disabled child. Ok. So be it. I'm proud that I'm that way.

in other words go **** yourself
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**SAUTO** · 08-21-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

That is amazing to me, given my limited interactions with that breed. Fun dogs though.

Seriously. He only barks on VERY rare occasions. awesome dog
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Pablo · 08-21-2013, 08:02 PM

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Seriously. He only barks on VERY rare occasions. awesome dog
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Does he snore? Our beagle snores up a storm in the middle of the night. Could be that she's a touch overweight.

**BossChief** · 08-21-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

He is playing out of position. If they asked Eric Berry to play OLB his rookie year he'd have probably sucked too. Then every body would have declared Berry a bust and he'd be playing for the ravens right now. Chiefs fans aren't the brightest.

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Switching to RT doesn't happen overnight. That's like saying a first baseman should be able to play third base right away.

Would you think it was smart to sign Derek Jeter to a massive deal and then move him to first base?

No, right?

If they drafted Eric Fisher to play left tackle, then move Albert to guard, trade him for whatever you can get, or move him to the right side.

If Albert is only here for one year (and it seems that's probably the case) then why give him the luxury of manning the position you just spent the top pick in the draft to play?

Either way, it's poor resource management.

Sorter · 08-21-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Not true. Everything is is oppisite. Harder still since he is right handed. He has been taught to use his dominent side inside. Now its to the outside. It cimes into play in all gscets of blockibg. Fish has quick feet or the coaches would never attempt it. Many can't make the switch.

If you truly think that the positional differences in regards to techniques, responsibilities (in regards to coverage, support, and fronts to be brief) are less extensive for a SS from a Tampa 2 based 4-3 under system switching to a 2-gap based, 3-4 OLB (you didn't even specify as to whether Berry would be playing the "elephant" or SAM ala Houston) than that of a LT to a RT, then I don't know what to tell you.

Most people would, like myself state that there is a learning curve and repetitions required for Fisher and that immediate, high level productions are unrealistic. However, for you to think that that position change is greater than that of Berry switching to a 3-4 OLB is absolutely laughable.

I'm also still waiting for your post that demonstrates how the AirRaid is a complete "gimmick offense".

**SAUTO** · 08-21-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

Does he snore? Our beagle snores up a storm in the middle of the night. Could be that she's a touch overweight.

Lol. seems like every other night. Its funny.
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L.A. Chieffan · 08-21-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Would you think it was smart to sign Derek Jeter to a massive deal and then move him to first base?

No, right?

If they drafted Eric Fisher to play left tackle, then move Albert to guard, trade him for whatever you can get, or move him to the right side.

If Albert is only here for one year (and it seems that's probably the case) then why give him the luxury of manning the position you just spent the top pick in the draft to play?

Either way, it's poor resource management.

I agree. Move Albert to guard, I don't care how he feels about it, and keep drafting OL until we're the envy of every team in the league.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-21-2013, 08:08 PM

All I can say is, if Smith struggles this year you can't discount the fact Albert has one foot out the door and Fisher is learning on the job.

**RealSNR** · 08-21-2013, 08:10 PM

All the offensive linemen that Reid picked or had a hand in picking with the Eagles.

That's a lot of fatties he's drafted, and a pretty terrible return rate for being such an offensive line guru. Yes, most of them are late round fliers, but if you just know the position like Reid does, shouldn't some of those guys wind up being starters in this league? Especially when you go through 14 years of this process, and in most of those draft classes you select multiple OL?

I'll give him credit for being better at drafting offensive linemen than the Chiefs have been at drafting defensive linemen, though.

1999
3rd- Doug Brzezinski- G
4th- John Welbourn- G/T

2000
2nd- Bobbie Williams- G
6th- John Romero- C

2002
4th- Scott Peters- C

2003
6th- Jeremy Bridges- G

2004
1st- Shawn Andrews- G
4th- Trey Darilek- G
7th- Adrien Clarke- G
7th- Dominic Furio- C

2005
4th- Todd Herremens- T
6th- Calvin Armstrong- T

2006
2nd- Winston Justice- T
4th- Max Jean-Gilles- G

2008
4th- Mike McGlynn- T
6th- Mike Gibson- T
7th- King Dunlap- T

2009
5th- Fenuki Tupou- T
7th- Paul Fanaika- G

2011
1st- Danny Watkins- G
5th- Julian Vandervelde- T

2012
5th- Dennis Kelly- T
7th- Brandon Washington- G

BigChiefFan · 08-21-2013, 08:11 PM

Fisher really needs to show some progress this week. He looked pretty good against the Saints, but he was man-handled in the 9ers game.

**BossChief** · 08-21-2013, 08:13 PM

You know how this pick will end up being thought of as a good pick?

1) Alberts back proves to be ****ed and he doesnt make it through the season because of it
2) Eric Winston has injury issues that cause him to retire early
3)Every single quarterback from thus draft class absolutely sucks and are ALL worse that'll what Alex Smith gives us
4) Eric Fisher becomes an all pro (don't care which side this happens on)

All of those happen and the pick was the right one, otherwise it was nothing but poor usage of limited resources.

Hammock Parties · 08-21-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You know how this pick will end up being thought of as a good pick?

1) Alberts back proves to be ****ed and he doesnt make it through the season because of it
2) Eric Winston has injury issues that cause him to retire early
3)Every single quarterback from thus draft class absolutely sucks and are ALL worse that'll what Alex Smith gives us
4) Eric Fisher becomes an all pro (don't care which side this happens on)

All of those happen and the pick was the right one, otherwise it was nothing but poor usage of limited resources.

**RealSNR** · 08-21-2013, 08:14 PM

Christ, that list. I wonder what the hell the Eagles did for starting offensive linemen in those 14 years.

Like, 3 of those guys started more than 4 years for that team. That's pretty embarrassing. I think Herremens is the only guys who's still there.

Brock · 08-21-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

All I can say is, if Smith struggles this year you can't discount the fact Albert has one foot out the door and Fisher is learning on the job.

I would think Albert wants to play for a payday.

08-21-2013, 08:08 PM	#684
L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2728654	All I can say is, if Smith struggles this year you can't discount the fact Albert has one foot out the door and Fisher is learning on the job.
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08-21-2013, 08:10 PM	#685
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1294792	All the offensive linemen that Reid picked or had a hand in picking with the Eagles. That's a lot of fatties he's drafted, and a pretty terrible return rate for being such an offensive line guru. Yes, most of them are late round fliers, but if you just know the position like Reid does, shouldn't some of those guys wind up being starters in this league? Especially when you go through 14 years of this process, and in most of those draft classes you select multiple OL? I'll give him credit for being better at drafting offensive linemen than the Chiefs have been at drafting defensive linemen, though. 1999 3rd- Doug Brzezinski- G 4th- John Welbourn- G/T 2000 2nd- Bobbie Williams- G 6th- John Romero- C 2002 4th- Scott Peters- C 2003 6th- Jeremy Bridges- G 2004 1st- Shawn Andrews- G 4th- Trey Darilek- G 7th- Adrien Clarke- G 7th- Dominic Furio- C 2005 4th- Todd Herremens- T 6th- Calvin Armstrong- T 2006 2nd- Winston Justice- T 4th- Max Jean-Gilles- G 2008 4th- Mike McGlynn- T 6th- Mike Gibson- T 7th- King Dunlap- T 2009 5th- Fenuki Tupou- T 7th- Paul Fanaika- G 2011 1st- Danny Watkins- G 5th- Julian Vandervelde- T 2012 5th- Dennis Kelly- T 7th- Brandon Washington- G
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08-21-2013, 08:11 PM	#686
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	Fisher really needs to show some progress this week. He looked pretty good against the Saints, but he was man-handled in the 9ers game. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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08-21-2013, 08:13 PM	#687
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1535912	You know how this pick will end up being thought of as a good pick? 1) Alberts back proves to be ****ed and he doesnt make it through the season because of it 2) Eric Winston has injury issues that cause him to retire early 3)Every single quarterback from thus draft class absolutely sucks and are ALL worse that'll what Alex Smith gives us 4) Eric Fisher becomes an all pro (don't care which side this happens on) All of those happen and the pick was the right one, otherwise it was nothing but poor usage of limited resources. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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08-21-2013, 08:14 PM	#689
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1294792	Christ, that list. I wonder what the hell the Eagles did for starting offensive linemen in those 14 years. Like, 3 of those guys started more than 4 years for that team. That's pretty embarrassing. I think Herremens is the only guys who's still there.
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