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Old 08-18-2013, 03:49 PM  
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PFF: Poor game from Fisher
Yup. Very poor game.

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I知 not in the business of making excuses for someone, but how bad is the hand of Eric Fisher (-4.5)? I ask because his performance was of such a level and he seemed to be favoring his hand so often, that the question had to be asked: are the Chiefs doing the right thing getting him game time as opposed to letting him heal?

He had to leave the field after Will Tukuafu got the better of him with 4:05 to go in the first and yet he would return to finish out the first half. That wasn稚 the only time he struggled as Ray McDonald was too powerful for him at the point of attack on the opening drive, having no problem working on his inside shoulder and getting off his blocking attempts.

In pass protection, Parys Haralson (hurry and sack), Corey Lemonier (hurry) and Ahmad Brooks (hurry with an assist from some hands to the face) all got past him, while he failed on two occasions to execute cut blocks on stretch runs.

More is expected of the first overall pick.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:54 AM   #556
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People are implying that it was mostly Alex Smith's fault Friday. Let's take a look at what actually happened.

-No Charles.
-Bowe double covered.
-OL getting pushed back into the QB.
-Kelce and Baldwin dropping passes they should have caught.
-Rookie RB looking decent but not that great.
-Baldwin not getting separation or turning head for the ball.

Alex wasn't the factor like people are proclaiming. He was a part of many factors.
Alex is experienced enough to know the hot read. He missed it way more often than a veteran should. Was a very bad performance even if lots of people also deserve blame.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:55 AM   #557
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I am not a fan of drafting right tackles this high.

But again... This idea that fisher is a better draft pick if he succeeds right away is total crap. If he does really well after struggling nobody will care about a year or so of struggles, just as most people have become supportive of Brandon Albert.
Branden Albert was a middle first round pick.

It's good to take raw players in that area. Look at Jason Pierre-Paul. Hell, even Dontari Poe. It shows that the team is willing to roll the dice.

It's not the same thing as taking a player like that at #1 overall.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:59 AM   #558
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I'd much rather have had Milliner and signed Sean Smith, and let Dunte Robinson go pound sand with some other team. Keep Eric Winston, re-sign Albert.

When the Chiefs go nickel, that's going to be a huge weakness with Robinson back there... one that is largely preventing this defense from gaining elite status.
what was the reason for cutting Winston so quickly? was it just his outspokenness, or was it he sucked?
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:03 PM   #559
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what was the reason for cutting Winston so quickly? was it just his outspokenness, or was it he sucked?
His play was thickening.
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what was the reason for cutting Winston so quickly? was it just his outspokenness, or was it he sucked?
I think he was viewed as a PR cancer after he lashed out at the fans.

As far as actual play; he was an average RT. Don't know that he would have been cut if he'd have shut his mouth.
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His play was thickening.
HAHA.

Must of listened to too much nickelback
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I think he was viewed as a PR cancer after he lashed out at the fans.

As far as actual play; he was an average RT. Don't know that he would have been cut if he'd have shut his mouth.
I know we wanted him pretty badly in Cleveland after he was cut from the Texans. I always liked him as a player.
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HAHA.

Must of listened to too much nickelback
Probably.

Seriously, though, no one knows. There were some rumors of some kind of injury issue.
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Probably.

Seriously, though, no one knows. There were some rumors of some kind of injury issue.
Well I guess we will see how he does for the Cards.
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I think there was a phone conversation that went something like this:

Reid: "Hello? Eric? Coach Reid here."

Winston: "Hey! Really excited to work with you coach!"

Reid: "I'm excited to be here, Eric. I've got some big changes planned for the team, so I know you're going to be excited. John Dorsey has some great ideas for bringing in talent at CB, DL, WR, QB, safety..."

Winston: "Wait, what did you say?"

Reid: "Umm... I said John Dorsey wants to make a big splash in acquiring more talent."

Winston: "Yeah, and then you listed a bunch of positions. QB was one of them. I could swear. Is that what you said?"

Reid: "Well, yeah. Good QB play is essential in this league, and we're going to have to get a new starter in here if we want to be competi-

Winston: *click*

Reid: "Hello? Hello... Eric?"
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I think there was a phone conversation that went something like this:

Reid: "Hello? Eric? Coach Reid here."

Winston: "Hey! Really excited to work with you coach!"

Reid: "I'm excited to be here, Eric. I've got some big changes planned for the team, so I know you're going to be excited. John Dorsey has some great ideas for bringing in talent at CB, DL, WR, QB, safety..."

Winston: "Wait, what did you say?"

Reid: "Umm... I said John Dorsey wants to make a big splash in acquiring more talent."

Winston: "Yeah, and then you listed a bunch of positions. QB was one of them. I could swear. Is that what you said?"

Reid: "Well, yeah. Good QB play is essential in this league, and we're going to have to get a new starter in here if we want to be competi-

Winston: *click*

Reid: "Hello? Hello... Eric?"
Winston probably wouldn't have hung up on Reid if he had just let him get to the words Alex Smith for a 2nd round pick.
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I think there was a phone conversation that went something like this:

Reid: "Hello? Eric? Coach Reid here."

Winston: "Hey! Really excited to work with you coach!"

Reid: "I'm excited to be here, Eric. I've got some big changes planned for the team, so I know you're going to be excited. John Dorsey has some great ideas for bringing in talent at CB, DL, WR, QB, safety..."

Winston: "Wait, what did you say?"

Reid: "Umm... I said John Dorsey wants to make a big splash in acquiring more talent."

Winston: "Yeah, and then you listed a bunch of positions. QB was one of them. I could swear. Is that what you said?"

Reid: "Well, yeah. Good QB play is essential in this league, and we're going to have to get a new starter in here if we want to be competi-

Winston: *click*

Reid: "Hello? Hello... Eric?"
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Winston probably wouldn't have hung up on Reid if he had just let him get to the words Alex Smith for a 2nd round pick.
No shit. Eric Winston is going to get destroyed in Arizona. Not because he sucks, but because his division is a monster. Seattle, with Avril, Red Bryant, Clemons, Bruce Irvin, the Rams with Chris Long, the 49ers with Ahmad Brooks, Ray McDonald, and if they flip around Aldon Smith..

Jesus.
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Branden Albert was a middle first round pick.

It's good to take raw players in that area. Look at Jason Pierre-Paul. Hell, even Dontari Poe. It shows that the team is willing to roll the dice.

It's not the same thing as taking a player like that at #1 overall.
I still don't get why anyone cares how long it takes the guy to develop. As long as he develops. I don't care where he was drafted.

And yes, this is completely from the perspective of... I didn't want a right tackle, but since we got him, I'm going to evaluate him based on what I expect from a first round right tackle. And immediately being good doesn't matter at all to me.
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Ed Werder said Eric Fisher has a shoulder and hand injury but are considered minor.

He said their are people within the Chiefs organization who want him to fight through this injury and show more mental toughness.
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