Chiefs PFF: Poor game from Fisher - Page 17

Hammock Parties · 08-18-2013, 03:49 PM

Yup. Very poor game.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...reseason-wk-2/

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Rookie Rollicking

I’m not in the business of making excuses for someone, but how bad is the hand of Eric Fisher (-4.5)? I ask because his performance was of such a level and he seemed to be favoring his hand so often, that the question had to be asked: are the Chiefs doing the right thing getting him game time as opposed to letting him heal?

He had to leave the field after Will Tukuafu got the better of him with 4:05 to go in the first and yet he would return to finish out the first half. That wasn’t the only time he struggled as Ray McDonald was too powerful for him at the point of attack on the opening drive, having no problem working on his inside shoulder and getting off his blocking attempts.

In pass protection, Parys Haralson (hurry and sack), Corey Lemonier (hurry) and Ahmad Brooks (hurry with an assist from some hands to the face) all got past him, while he failed on two occasions to execute cut blocks on stretch runs.

More is expected of the first overall pick.

aturnis · 08-18-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

The bills traded down to do it. They didn't sit there at 8 and take him. Come on. If they weren't taking a qb, which they weren't, the only option to take was oline. Brendan Albert hadn't signed his tag, and they didn't have an oline. People forget that.

Brandon Albert had signed his franchise tag...

**Mav** · 08-18-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Brandon Albert had signed his franchise tag...

But he hadn't reported correct? And he was told to find a trade correct? So the plan was for him not to be here at that time?

If I am wrong, I apologize, but im pretty sure that it was pretty much guaranteed to most that he wasn't coming back.....

Pablo · 08-18-2013, 10:41 PM

Plans aren't reality.

Dorsey bet on Albert being gone and was dead wrong. As a result we have Alex Smith, and two LT's.

Shit. We have a 1.1 at RT. A 1.1 at QB. A 1.16 at LT. And a 2.2 and another pick traded away to get that QB. Don't know how I could expect our line and offense in general to look good. Especially the first number one pick in franchise history with a new regime. Don't know why I'd expect big things outta that guy.

Sorter · 08-18-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

This. As a former college fb (not an offensive lineman, I know) I realize that hand injuries come with the territory when blocking is a major function at your position. But you also have to realize that when blocking IS YOUR EntiRe job, your hands are sort of important. A good example is that I now make a living as an art director. My livelihood depends on the health of my hands. I recently broke my hand and couldn't work for 6 weeks. Sure, hand injuries are a part of being an offensive lineman; but if its a bad enough injury. The guy can't do what he's on the field to do.

That kind of masturbation sounds intense.

aturnis · 08-18-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

But he hadn't reported correct? And he was told to find a trade correct? So the plan was for him not to be here at that time?

If I am wrong, I apologize, but im pretty sure that it was pretty much guaranteed to most that he wasn't coming back.....

You are wrong. He didn't show to voluntary works, which got way to much attention. Why take the risk when your club hasn't shown a belief in you, and you're on a one year contract.

He wasn't told to find a trade, but it was rumored that the Chiefs were trying to find a suitor. Nobody knew the plan but the guys at One Arrowhead drive.

**Mav** · 08-18-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

You are wrong. He didn't show to voluntary works, which got way to much attention. Why take the risk when your club hasn't shown a belief in you, and you're on a one year contract.

He wasn't told to find a trade, but it was rumored that the Chiefs were trying to find a suitor. Nobody knew the plan but the guys at One Arrowhead drive.

What? Brendan Albert was in Miami working on a contract with the Dolphins.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/4...fs-discussions

This above is about the Chiefs giving the Dolphins permission to speak with his agent.

rico · 08-18-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

That kind of masturbation sounds intense.

Haha, thank you Sorter...I haven't laughed like that in a long time.

Sorter · 08-18-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

Haha, thank you Sorter...I haven't laughed like that in a long time.

Long time, no chat. How have you been, comrade?

aturnis · 08-18-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

What? Brendan Albert was in Miami working on a contract with the Dolphins.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/4...fs-discussions

This above is about the Chiefs giving the Dolphins permission to speak with his agent.

Yes. The Chiefs worked out a possible trade which Albert didn't object to. They gave him the go ahead to negotiate a contact b/c the Dolphins would never agree to a trade for a player that wasn't under contract, or had already agreed to one.

**Mav** · 08-18-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Yes. The Chiefs worked out a possible trade which Albert didn't object to. They gave him the go ahead to negotiate a contact b/c the Dolphins would never agree to a trade for a player that wasn't under contract, or had already agreed to one.

That's all I was really saying, it was in limbo even after the draft. I am guessing, only guessing that they assumed that Brendan Albert would not be a Chief this year. Which would justify the drafting of Fisher at 1/1

Sorry for the confusion.

aturnis · 08-18-2013, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

That's all I was really saying, it was in limbo even after the draft. I am guessing, only guessing that they assumed that Brendan Albert would not be a Chief this year. Which would justify the drafting of Fisher at 1/1

Sorry for the confusion.

As soon as the trade failed they knew. If the trade hadn't happened by the time you pick, you have to assume it won't happen.

**BossChief** · 08-19-2013, 12:02 AM

Fact is that high first round picks need to impact the win and loss column to be labeled a good pick and thus far, Eric Fisher has a very long ways to go before he is even considered a good player and has virtually no chance to play at a level high enough to be a big reason we win football games.

I know this statement will probably get ignored, but thus far this smells just like Cassel/Jackson.

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2013, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

thus far this smells just like Cassel/Jackson.

**BossChief** · 08-19-2013, 12:24 AM

In time, I EXPECT for people to be like "we should have drafted Tavon Austin, too bad nobody thought that at the time"

Just look at the 2009 draft.

Who wouldn't trade Tyson Jackson/Andre Smith/Eugene Monroe/Jason Smith for Percy Harvin or Jeremy Maclin...or Jarius Byrd...or Brian Orakpo...or...well, the point is made.

Those types of players impact games.

This is gonna be the exact same type of outcome where players like Tavon
Austin/Ansah/Milliner/Sheldon/Vaccaro are gonna be the guys getting paid big bucks in a few years while guys like Fisher/Joeckel/Johnson and others are lowballed in contract negotiations and will be low on the priority list because their positions offer little in terms of win/loss impact.

Just like this offseason where guys like Albert/Smith/Long/Smith/Winston/Clabo all either struggled to get paid a modest wage or were let walk for nothing.

The only way to salvage any part of this bad decision is to keep Albert and at least provide this team with a return of a run of 5 years with effective bookend offensive tackles...but no matter what it will be looked at as a somewhat wasted pick.

Just like the Tyson Jackson selection.

**BossChief** · 08-19-2013, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Welp, if he sucks he won't make the team.

23 million fully guaranteed contract.

08-18-2013, 10:41 PM	#243
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1650644	Plans aren't reality. Dorsey bet on Albert being gone and was dead wrong. As a result we have Alex Smith, and two LT's. Shit. We have a 1.1 at RT. A 1.1 at QB. A 1.16 at LT. And a 2.2 and another pick traded away to get that QB. Don't know how I could expect our line and offense in general to look good. Especially the first number one pick in franchise history with a new regime. Don't know why I'd expect big things outta that guy.
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08-19-2013, 12:02 AM	#252
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1535912	Fact is that high first round picks need to impact the win and loss column to be labeled a good pick and thus far, Eric Fisher has a very long ways to go before he is even considered a good player and has virtually no chance to play at a level high enough to be a big reason we win football games. I know this statement will probably get ignored, but thus far this smells just like Cassel/Jackson. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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08-19-2013, 12:24 AM	#254
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1535912	In time, I EXPECT for people to be like "we should have drafted Tavon Austin, too bad nobody thought that at the time" Just look at the 2009 draft. Who wouldn't trade Tyson Jackson/Andre Smith/Eugene Monroe/Jason Smith for Percy Harvin or Jeremy Maclin...or Jarius Byrd...or Brian Orakpo...or...well, the point is made. Those types of players impact games. This is gonna be the exact same type of outcome where players like Tavon Austin/Ansah/Milliner/Sheldon/Vaccaro are gonna be the guys getting paid big bucks in a few years while guys like Fisher/Joeckel/Johnson and others are lowballed in contract negotiations and will be low on the priority list because their positions offer little in terms of win/loss impact. Just like this offseason where guys like Albert/Smith/Long/Smith/Winston/Clabo all either struggled to get paid a modest wage or were let walk for nothing. The only way to salvage any part of this bad decision is to keep Albert and at least provide this team with a return of a run of 5 years with effective bookend offensive tackles...but no matter what it will be looked at as a somewhat wasted pick. Just like the Tyson Jackson selection. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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