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Old 08-18-2013, 03:49 PM  
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PFF: Poor game from Fisher
Yup. Very poor game.

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I’m not in the business of making excuses for someone, but how bad is the hand of Eric Fisher (-4.5)? I ask because his performance was of such a level and he seemed to be favoring his hand so often, that the question had to be asked: are the Chiefs doing the right thing getting him game time as opposed to letting him heal?

He had to leave the field after Will Tukuafu got the better of him with 4:05 to go in the first and yet he would return to finish out the first half. That wasn’t the only time he struggled as Ray McDonald was too powerful for him at the point of attack on the opening drive, having no problem working on his inside shoulder and getting off his blocking attempts.

In pass protection, Parys Haralson (hurry and sack), Corey Lemonier (hurry) and Ahmad Brooks (hurry with an assist from some hands to the face) all got past him, while he failed on two occasions to execute cut blocks on stretch runs.

More is expected of the first overall pick.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:01 PM   #136
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Nobody has said "I told us so" in this thread. In fact the only ones bringing up any other draft option are the"true fans". Fisher is being evaluated. The evaluations are pretty fair to boot.
Oh, there are plenty of people staking their claims to be right. That is what matters to some here: calling out "busts" before they happen to have the appearance of football knowledge.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:01 PM   #137
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What the **** does it matter what I think? The pick was made. Maybe it won't work out maybe it will, but to bitch at this moment is premature. Who knows what he brings to this team, but let's keep up the dog pile mentality and all circle jerk each other while we complain. That fixes everything.
Let's all wish on a star and wait for our dreams to come true. Seriously, have you guys been chiefs fans long? Things don't just work out for us in some sort of dumb luck way. Wait and see again, right?

**** that. I just want the guy to be good. Like right now.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:01 PM   #138
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I seriously laugh my as of at anyone who assumes Albert is gone.
I just figure that Dorsey and Reid wouldn't have drafted Fisher if they agreed with you.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:02 PM   #139
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I am fine with Fisher out of the players who were available at the top of the draft.

But we do have to understand he didn't play against top collegiate competition before, let alone NFL level competition. He's also not playing his natural position. I kind of feel like he should be playing LT now because he will be our LT of the future, Branden Albert's ego be damned.

But you also are afraid of the "shades of Trezelle Jenkins" feeling, where Whitlock wrote that memorable column about how he hated the pick, and Gunther gave him this big spiel, showing him game film and saying how Tree's problems were all technique and they could coach him up.

Who knows what'll happen... there's probably no use slicing each other up about it.

I guess I don't understand why goatse feels the need to gloat when someone on our team goes out there and fails. Why take pleasure in that?
Yes he didn't play top level collegiate competition. But he was the biggest, strongest, fastest, most athletic Tackle in the draft. So who would they draft otherwise? There is an adjustment time frame with him but the upside is the sky. I think you got to gamble on greatness when you have the chance and they did. They could pick somebody with a higher floor but not with a higher ceiling. And they went for the ceiling.

I think that is the right thing to do with the #1 pick.
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The same people calling him a pussy for a possible injury are the same ones not speaking a word about guys like Geno and Mingo also being injured this preseason. The same people who (even if they didn't want to draft a RT) blasted picking Joeckl over Fisher because he was safer, are the same ones bitching that Fisher is less NFL-ready than Joeckl.
This is a Chiefs board you dumbass. Who ****ing cares about other teams rookies?
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there are people that set this unrealistic expectation that he has to be some star, injury-free player from the get-go, which everybody knew he was not going to be.
No one is saying that.

But blocking PARYS ****ING HARALSON WOULD BE NICE DAMMIT.
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He is being evaluated by people pushing an agenda.

The same people calling him a pussy for a possible injury are the same ones not speaking a word about guys like Geno and Mingo also being injured this preseason. The same people who (even if they didn't want to draft a RT) blasted picking Joeckl over Fisher because he was safer, are the same ones bitching that Fisher is less NFL-ready than Joeckl.

If you want to evaluate Fisher play-by-play, great, let's have that discussion. But it's never going to be a discussion if there are people that set this unrealistic expectation that he has to be some star, injury-free player from the get-go, which everybody knew he was not going to be.
I have zero agenda. He looked like hell. PFF also has no agenda.
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I just figure that Dorsey and Reid wouldn't have drafted Fisher if they agreed with you.
Dorsey bet on having Albert sold off by the end of the draft and was dead ****ing wrong. Why should I give that guy the benefit of the doubt again?
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So how are the other top 4 picks of the 2013 draft doing? I ask, because those are the guys we need to be comparing Fisher to. His peers. Anyone know?
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Are we not suppose to take note about how bad he's been playing? Or are we suppose to notice it and just be quiet about it on a forum?
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This is a Chiefs board you dumbass. Who ****ing cares about other teams rookies?
Because when people are pushing the agenda that the pick should have been Geno instead of Eric Fisher, then yeah, it becomes extremely hypocritical when you rag on one guy for playing injured and not the other.
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Because when people are pushing the agenda that the pick should have been Geno instead of Eric Fisher, then yeah, it becomes extremely hypocritical when you rag on one guy for playing injured and not the other.
Must be nice to live in the world where if you take a person in a certain situation and put them in a different situation that they experience the exact same things.
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Let's all wish on a star and wait for our dreams to come true. Seriously, have you guys been chiefs fans long? Things don't just work out for us in some sort of dumb luck way. Wait and see again, right?

**** that. I just want the guy to be good. Like right now.
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He is being evaluated by people pushing an agenda.

The same people calling him a pussy for a possible injury are the same ones not speaking a word about guys like Geno and Mingo also being injured this preseason. The same people who (even if they didn't want to draft a RT) blasted picking Joeckl over Fisher because he was safer, are the same ones bitching that Fisher is less NFL-ready than Joeckl.

If you want to evaluate Fisher play-by-play, great, let's have that discussion. But it's never going to be a discussion if there are people that set this unrealistic expectation that he has to be some star, injury-free player from the get-go, which everybody knew he was not going to be.
Expecting your 1.1 to be a star isn't realistic? It's expected. If i wanted to draft a player for what he might be 3 years from now, i'd take a QB, not a RT.

We spent an entire offseason arguing this point and look....here we are again.
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CP: the place to bitch until next week. Got it.
Until next week? Or until they play worth a shit? Yeah, when they play bad, they will be called bad. Nothing new.
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