Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 628

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

siberian khatru · 08-13-2013, 08:41 AM

It seems such a simple question: "Are you a fan?"

**** off, Rob. You couldn't hack it through the tough years when some of us stuck with it. You ****ing stay away from this team now.

**DeezNutz** · 08-13-2013, 08:44 AM

Rob was just, essentially, kicked off the air on 810 when he started pondering who the starting pitchers would be in '15.

St. John cut him off, said they were out of time. Rob hangs up, and Steven apologizes to the audience.

.

**RockChalk** · 08-13-2013, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

It seems such a simple question: "Are you a fan?"

**** off, Rob. You couldn't hack it through the tough years when some of us stuck with it. You ****ing stay away from this team now.

He was just on 810 and gave the most depressing sounding interview ever.

Do you think Prison Bitch and Rob are the same people?

**RockChalk** · 08-13-2013, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Rob was just, essentially, kicked off the air on 810 when he started pondering who the starting pitchers would be in '15.

St. John cut him off, said they were out of time. Rob hangs up, and Steven apologizes to the audience.

.

This. I loved the abrupt end

Pretty sure Rob could talk a kid in a candy story into suicide. What a joy to have on the radio

Messier · 08-13-2013, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Rob was just, essentially, kicked off the air on 810 when he started pondering who the starting pitchers would be in '15.

St. John cut him off, said they were out of time. Rob hangs up, and Steven apologizes to the audience.

.

I think they were out of time, they'd been on with him for over 30 minutes.

**Saul Good** · 08-13-2013, 08:48 AM

That was a brutal interview.

Messier · 08-13-2013, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Rob was just, essentially, kicked off the air on 810 when he started pondering who the starting pitchers would be in '15.

St. John cut him off, said they were out of time. Rob hangs up, and Steven apologizes to the audience.

.

I think he was way too pessimistic, and really should enjoy the moment, but that was his best point, and I agree.

**DeezNutz** · 08-13-2013, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier

I think they were out of time, they'd been on with him for over 30 minutes.

Yeah, didn't mean to suggest he hadn't had a fair amount of time. But the end was so abrupt, and they didn't immediately go to break. St. John talked for a little bit. That + apology meant, to me, that the hosts had hit their threshold with the pessimism.

siberian khatru · 08-13-2013, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Rob was just, essentially, kicked off the air on 810 when he started pondering who the starting pitchers would be in '15.

St. John cut him off, said they were out of time. Rob hangs up, and Steven apologizes to the audience.

.

Wow. I hope they podcast that.

It's hilarious the criticism Rany gets from some folks for being a "hater." They have no idea what a Royals self-hater is until they've read/listened to Neyer.

CaliforniaChief · 08-13-2013, 08:50 AM

Just get ready for this.

If the Royals get into the playoffs this year, or even continue as they are and are right there at the end, a LOT of people who chose to slink away during the bad years are going to run right to the front row of the bandwagon.

I'd rather deal with that than the way its been, though.

**RockChalk** · 08-13-2013, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Just get ready for this.

If the Royals get into the playoffs this year, or even continue as they are and are right there at the end, a LOT of people who chose to slink away during the bad years are going to run right to the front row of the bandwagon.

I'd rather deal with that than the way its been, though.

The thing is that these people (like Neyer) who come running back if we reach the playoffs, will still not be able to enjoy the playoffs. They'll be negative and only look at the reasons why we'll lose games.

Messier · 08-13-2013, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yeah, didn't mean to suggest he hadn't had a fair amount of time. But the end was so abrupt, and they didn't immediately go to break. St. John talked for a little bit. That + apology meant, to me, that the hosts had hit their threshold with the pessimism.

Yes. St. John basically accused Rob if banging his head against the wall an refusing admit he's wrong.

mr. tegu · 08-13-2013, 08:58 AM

There are a lot people in this thread that are coming back for crow after demanding sell, sell, sell. Even Deez being positive? Everything is upside down now!

Coach · 08-13-2013, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

There are a lot people in this thread that are coming back for crow after demanding sell, sell, sell. Even Deez being positive? Everything is upside down now!

Not me.

I wanted buy, buy, buy. I was all in for the whole ****ing thing after the All Star break. Win the whole ****ing thing.

siberian khatru · 08-13-2013, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

There are a lot people in this thread that are coming back for crow after demanding sell, sell, sell.

I thought they should sell. EDIT: In retrospect, according to Buster Olney and others, there really wasn't much of a market even for Santana. The Cubs had to go begging for other teams interested in Garza to create a market outside of the Rangers.

But I never stopped being a fan, and although I still don't think they make the playoffs, I'm enjoying them winning. My goal for the rest of the year is to keep playing well and avoid those classic Royal cave-ins -- no more 8-game losing streaks or a 4-19 September.

Then have a strong offseason and shoot for the playoffs in 2014.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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