Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 469

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**LoneWolf** · 07-13-2013, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s

The real Royals are in the house.

Season over. If Moore was smart, he should do as much selling at the deadline as he can. It's obvious what this team is now, and it's no better than what we're used to.

Yep, get what you can for Santana and Butler.

Sure-Oz · 07-13-2013, 06:59 PM

Glad our stupid GM traded the future for a team that wasn't ready.

Great job guys

Sure-Oz · 07-13-2013, 07:00 PM

Dayton won't sell....he's trying to make sure this team is near .500 so he can save his job

TambaBerry · 07-13-2013, 07:01 PM

Clean house fire the gm and yost.

**gblowfish** · 07-13-2013, 07:02 PM

How many times has Moose "popped up" this year? A billion?

**alnorth** · 07-13-2013, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Yep, get what you can for Santana and Butler.

I'm fine with shipping Santana, but Butler has very little trade value, and is worth more to us than to anyone else. Trading Butler would be pretty foolish.

**KcMizzou** · 07-13-2013, 07:07 PM

Bring on training camp.

WhawhaWhat · 07-13-2013, 07:08 PM

Quote:

frank boal ‏@realfrankboal
How bad is the Royals offense? They started an hour and a half before Sporting and Sporting scored first...

and they're on TV.

**gblowfish** · 07-13-2013, 07:08 PM

Whooo....we scored!!

KCUnited · 07-13-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Dayton won't sell....he's trying to make sure this team is near .500 so he can save his job

This is my fear.

stonedstooge · 07-13-2013, 07:12 PM

Score and inning?

**Shogun** · 07-13-2013, 07:20 PM

top 7th. 2 out Hosmer up 2 on. 5-3 tribe

stonedstooge · 07-13-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun

top 7th. 2 out Hosmer up 2 on. 5-3 tribe

Thank you

C3HIEF3S · 07-13-2013, 07:38 PM

Runners on 1st and 2nd with 1 out.

Prison Bitch · 07-13-2013, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I've said all along you need to make the Cold Corner understand playign MLB isn't a right. It's a privilege. One that can (and should) be revoked at any time without warning. Just like Cleveland did with Chisenhall.

Unfortunately we have a GM who doesn't believe in accountability either from his players or himself. That's why he gives players long leashes, and why he gives himself an even longer one ("It can take 10 years"). If the GM is never to blame, the players begin to think they're blameless too.

Rewind! I wrote this May 20 after Chisenhall was demoted. Chisenhall was sent down hitting 20-94 (.212) with a 3-22 BB-K rate and a ~600 OPS. Since his recall, he's gone 20-71 (.282) with a 5-11 bb-K rate and ~800 OPS.

But Dayton said he couldn't send down Moose because "there's no substitute for facing major league pitching". Right? Isn't that right Dayton?

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