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Old 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread
Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:05 PM   #3556
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:06 PM   #3557
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Attendance doesn't matter to payroll anymore. It's all TV. And Glass signed a horrible TV extension. We're in trouble and that's why Dayton decided to go all-in the next two years. Because the 5 years after will be slash & burn cheap payrolls.
Sadly this is probably more true than false. We'll see. The fact the Indians make twice is much is small potatoes compared to someone like the Dodgers, who just signed a TV contract that gives them probably close to $300M a year. And it has the potential to get worse as teams like the Phillies get new deals.

There was actually an article about all this in LA Weekly a few weeks ago. It touched on 1) the idea whether these huge contracts were sustainable given that more and more people were giving up on cable. They may be creating a bubble that's going to burst. And 2) how this creates an even wider gap between the rich and poor, and used the Royals and Dodgers as the example. It claimed the Royals got $20M from TV and $25M from revenue sharing. The Dodgers blow that out of the water before selling a single ticket.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:11 PM   #3558
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2019. We can go to market for the 2020 season. Our horrible TV contract pays $20MM/yr. The Indians for example are getting $40MM/yr.
I'm guessing there's no way we can cut out of this abomination of a deal?

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Old 05-04-2013, 01:18 PM   #3562
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BS Question because it won't happen. But if the Royals went out and acquired Stanton, signing him to a 5 year extension and building around him, what would the average attendance at the K be this summer?

I legitimately think that if you added Stanton to a contender, you're looking at 30,000 + at every home game. This town is starving for a young superstar who hits long home runs, IMO. They could market the hell out of him.

I'd send them Cain, Ventura, Mondesi, and 2 other low-level prospects for Stanton.

Ok, back to reality.
They would laugh Moore off the phone before he could even finish that offer...

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Well, they each have 1 Cy Young. And over the past 5 years only Verlander has a higher WAR than Zack does. Those are the facts.
The Big 3 are a cut above, every GM in baseball would take Verlander, CK, & Felix amongst others before Zach. One GM just said he'd take Shields over Greinke. Dude has wicked stuff when he's engaged, but he's not a great clubhouse leader and has admitted giving less than 100% while pitching. These things need to be a part of the equation when you unequivocally place him in the same class as the big 3 IMO.
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