Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 115

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Great Expectations · 03-24-2013, 07:47 PM

Colon is the next hope at 2b. He did well in Omaha last year. Might hit around 280 and play better D than Getz.

**SAUTO** · 03-24-2013, 07:56 PM

Yeah curt has never proven himself to be very smart
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duncan_idaho · 03-24-2013, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Yeah curt has never proven himself to be very smart
Posted via Mobile Device

See: Dumping all of his money into a video game company and losing it all.

Oops.

Al Bundy · 03-24-2013, 09:55 PM

Danny Duffy ‏@DannyDuffy805 15m

When yall pray tonight, please send one up for 1 of my favorite teammates of all time. Carlos Fortuna was an AMAZING kid. Rest In Peace.

KChiefs1 · 03-24-2013, 11:50 PM

Watching the game on MLB...Royals are a spring training machine.

Archie F. Swin · 03-25-2013, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

He talked about Detroit being untouchable, winning the division by double digits....

I know they were strong last season, how did they become world-beaters during the off season?

Mother****erJones · 03-25-2013, 06:53 AM

Meh my White Sox almost took the division last year. Detroit doesnt have a closer. Theyre good but not untouchable

Archie F. Swin · 03-25-2013, 08:32 AM

David Lesky compares Tigers and Royals Roster going into 2013

http://pinetarpress.com/morning-coff...th-the-tigers/

Here's the summary, for details see link above.

"So the scoreboard shows the Tigers victorious in nine positions (1B, 2B, 3B, CF, RF, 1 starter, 2 starter, 3 starter, 4 starter), the Royals victorious in six (SS, LF, DH, 5 starter, closer, bullpen) and a push at catcher. The Tigers are better than the Royals, but the Royals do have some potential. A lot would have to happen for the Tigers to fall back to the Royals, so I would never predict it, but this shows there are some advantages the Royals have. It’s as close as its been in a long time."

Demonpenz · 03-25-2013, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Rany Jazayerli ‏@jazayerli 2m

Also, this means that if KC hadn't traded Myers, they almost certainly could have dumped all of Francoeur's contract on NY this week. Oops.

Is Rany not getting laid?

Demonpenz · 03-25-2013, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

David Lesky compares Tigers and Royals Roster going into 2013

http://pinetarpress.com/morning-coff...th-the-tigers/

Here's the summary, for details see link above.

"So the scoreboard shows the Tigers victorious in nine positions (1B, 2B, 3B, CF, RF, 1 starter, 2 starter, 3 starter, 4 starter), the Royals victorious in six (SS, LF, DH, 5 starter, closer, bullpen) and a push at catcher. The Tigers are better than the Royals, but the Royals do have some potential. A lot would have to happen for the Tigers to fall back to the Royals, so I would never predict it, but this shows there are some advantages the Royals have. It’s as close as its been in a long time."

Catcher goes to the Royals.

Ebolapox · 03-25-2013, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

David Lesky compares Tigers and Royals Roster going into 2013

http://pinetarpress.com/morning-coff...th-the-tigers/

Here's the summary, for details see link above.

"So the scoreboard shows the Tigers victorious in nine positions (1B, 2B, 3B, CF, RF, 1 starter, 2 starter, 3 starter, 4 starter), the Royals victorious in six (SS, LF, DH, 5 starter, closer, bullpen) and a push at catcher. The Tigers are better than the Royals, but the Royals do have some potential. A lot would have to happen for the Tigers to fall back to the Royals, so I would never predict it, but this shows there are some advantages the Royals have. It’s as close as its been in a long time."

hwo the **** is catcher a ****ing push? salvy >>>>>>> bryan pena

Fansy the Famous Bard · 03-25-2013, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Chris Getz' has outperformed Gio not only in the field (Where Getz is just average but Gio is below-average) but also at the plate (.630 OPS for Getz vs. .611 OPS for Gio).

He still sucks, but that doesn't mean he isn't better than any option they have (or have tried to bring in).

Saying "outperformed" in this context is like... like... there are so many analogies that can be made here that I just can't do it justice...

Archie F. Swin · 03-25-2013, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

hwo the **** is catcher a ****ing push? salvy >>>>>>> bryan pena

C: Alex Avila vs. Salvador Perez

Fansy the Famous Bard · 03-25-2013, 09:33 AM

Alex Avila is a very good young catcher as well. He's had more success at the ML level than salvy has... So I can see where they might get that. We all know what Salvy can do if he stays healthy. Hopefully by the end of this year, there will be no question who the better catcher is.

TLO · 03-25-2013, 10:09 AM

Opening day can't get here soon enough!!

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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03-25-2013, 08:32 AM	#1718
Archie F. Swin This is the way Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Casino cash: $9975673	David Lesky compares Tigers and Royals Roster going into 2013 http://pinetarpress.com/morning-coff...th-the-tigers/ Here's the summary, for details see link above. "So the scoreboard shows the Tigers victorious in nine positions (1B, 2B, 3B, CF, RF, 1 starter, 2 starter, 3 starter, 4 starter), the Royals victorious in six (SS, LF, DH, 5 starter, closer, bullpen) and a push at catcher. The Tigers are better than the Royals, but the Royals do have some potential. A lot would have to happen for the Tigers to fall back to the Royals, so I would never predict it, but this shows there are some advantages the Royals have. It’s as close as its been in a long time." __________________ "No Two People Will Do It The Same, You got It Down...When You Appear to Be In Pain!"
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Fansy the Famous Bard I'm with the Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $-923560	Alex Avila is a very good young catcher as well. He's had more success at the ML level than salvy has... So I can see where they might get that. We all know what Salvy can do if he stays healthy. Hopefully by the end of this year, there will be no question who the better catcher is. __________________ Hi.
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