Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 109

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

stonedstooge · 03-22-2013, 04:04 PM

Thanks fellas. Hope Shields getting lit up stops in about a week and 2 days

Cephalic Trauma · 03-22-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Thanks fellas. Hope Shields getting lit up stops in about a week and 2 days

I want nothing more than to have Duncan enter this thread and tell us why this start means nothing.

WhawhaWhat · 03-22-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Damn they were just teeing off on Shields that inning. I just started watching the game. How many innings has he pitched?

What was he throwing? I hope Shields was maybe working on something and not necessarily worried about what the results of the pitch was.

stonedstooge · 03-22-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

What was he throwing? I hope Shields was maybe working on something and not necessarily worried about what the results of the pitch was.

Looked like hard sliders and fastballs.

AndChiefs · 03-22-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

I want nothing more than to have Duncan enter this thread and tell us why this start means nothing.

Not hard. It's spring training. Nothing, good or bad can be pulled too much from it. Especially when they're not fighting for a starting spot.

stonedstooge · 03-22-2013, 04:15 PM

Nice defense Gordon, and block of the plate by Salvy

Nightfyre · 03-22-2013, 04:16 PM

Gordon with the cannon

AndChiefs · 03-22-2013, 04:19 PM

That was on hosmer.

stonedstooge · 03-22-2013, 05:43 PM

Royals score big today

**Shogun** · 03-22-2013, 06:03 PM

This was a good game for us, IMO. Yeah yeah, our Ace and opening day starter sputtered out early, its gonna happen with monster lineups like the Angels sometimes. But I really like how our team responded to being in the hole. Big bats came to play today, spring training or not. And I think that it probably helped their psyche knowing they can do that sort of thing and hang in there with the best of them. JIMO

stonedstooge · 03-22-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun

This was a good game for us, IMO. Yeah yeah, our Ace and opening day starter sputtered out early, its gonna happen with monster lineups like the Angels sometimes. But I really like how our team responded to being in the hole. Big bats came to play today, spring training or not. And I think that it probably helped their psyche knowing they can do that sort of thing and hang in there with the best of them. JIMO

Gawd if we could rely on the offense this year in big scoring games, JIMP

Mizzou_8541 · 03-22-2013, 06:37 PM

So should we, or should we not be concerned about Shields' start? Hasn't he had to bad outings in a row?

**DeezNutz** · 03-22-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

So should we, or should we not be concerned about Shields' start? Hasn't he had to bad outings in a row?

Could not give a **** less what proven pitchers do in Spring Training, and this is coming from someone who wishes we never traded for Shields.

As long as he's healthy, he'll be just fine.

Mizzou_8541 · 03-22-2013, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Could not give a **** less what proven pitchers do in Spring Training, and this is coming from someone who wishes we never traded for Shields.

As long as he's healthy, he'll be just fine.

Ok. I'm a Mizzou fan, I expect the worst.

stonedstooge · 03-22-2013, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

So should we, or should we not be concerned about Shields' start? Hasn't he had to bad outings in a row?

I was more encouraged that the 4 pitchers that followed him never gave up a run

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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