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Old 01-01-2013, 03:04 PM  
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Is Hunt Telling The Truth?
Don't want to start a panic, but I know we are all thinking the same thing even if we want to ignore it. Clark SAYS he is gonna hire a vet coach that's experienced in what we need and that Pioli won't play a part in the search, but then we keep hearing about guys Pioli has connections with getting interviews and how Clark hasn't even contacted Andy Reid.

I may be jumping the gun here, but this is starting to remind me of last years "we are gonna bring in qb competition" talks that we all know how that ended.

Is this a "fool me once..." type scenario or are all the tree coaches interviewing just bs leaked by Pioli to create the impression he still has his nuts?

Should we be pissed?
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:39 PM   #241
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He was also a developing QB at the time, and it was somewhat unconventional for a n00b A.) to be playing and B.) to be succeeding.

Don't let presenticism color your view of history.
Big Ben started right away because of injuries. And I am basing my point on his 15 year career as a run first guy with a qb who manages games. The idea that cowher is a qb guy is tough to prove. Big Ben being drafted and being forced to start fell into his lap. Will he do that again? And will he change a philosophy that loves to run the ball. Who knows. It isn't a slam dunk. You don't think there isn't a similar scenario where cow her brings in a bettis like back and brings in Alex smith or Sanchez? That is much more consistent with his style.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:39 PM   #242
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Doesn't mean he suddenly knows how to find one.
He only found one, so it's unlikely that he knows how to find one.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:39 PM   #243
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:39 PM   #244
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Doesn't mean he suddenly knows how to find one.
Do you really think Cowher, a LB, LB coach and DC, is going to rely on his own opinion to select a QB?

There will be a QB guru on staff who will advise Chin.

This is not Pioli 2.0.
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Big Ben started right away because of injuries. And I am basing my point on his 15 year career as a run first guy with a qb who manages games. The idea that cowher is a qb guy is tough to prove. Big Ben being drafted and being forced to start fell into his lap. Will he do that again? And will he change a philosophy that loves to run the ball. Who knows. It isn't a slam dunk. You don't think there isn't a similar scenario where cow her brings in a bettis like back and brings in Alex smith or Sanchez? That is much more consistent with his style.
I don't want to read any more bullshit about QBs falling into laps. Complete and utter ****ing horse shit. Just like it will be if we draft Smith, he blows the **** up, and stupid ****ing Broncos fans come here to cry about him "falling into our lap."

Rodgers gave us a lap dance in '05 and we still wouldn't give him a dollar.
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this is why it is essential Clark insists on drafting a QB...that is non-negotiable for any hire....
they don't draft a legitimate QB and immediately start him..then it's all moot.

I won't give even close to a damn unless that happens.
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Everyone jizzed their shorts over Jim Zorn.

Why?

He was a QB guy. He'll fix everything.


You don't need a QB guy as the HC.

You need the right QB - and that requires good scouting, not a guy like Mike Holmgren who coached the position when Noah was loading the ark.
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Chiefs fans calling QBs easy picks. OK.

Just like that easy pick by GB in '05. Wasn't too easy for our stupid ****ing franchise.
You are assuming that was cowhers pick to make. Or that cowher envisioned Ben as an ideal game manager, which is how I see it. Until I see compelling proof, I see cowher as a guy who wants a power running game and would settle for a game manager at qb.
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The problem with Hunt bypassing the front office in hiring a coach is his lack of knowledge about football. I mean that is what a front office is for. If you are going to do it Clark's way, you need to do what San Diego did, and bring in a Ron Wolf as a hiring consultant.

In a sense, I don't think he is telling the truth about it being his baby -- he is either leaning on Pioli or he has all but fired Pioli and is leaning on someone like Marty.

Bypassing the front office for the most important decision they make without cleaning house makes no sense unless there is already a new shadow GM.
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Again, if the rumor of Carl in KC recently is true...he could be advising Hunt.

Oh, wait.
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this is why it is essential Clark insists on drafting a QB...that is non-negotiable for any hire....
If any potential head coach looks at this roster and doesn't see the need for a serious upgrade at quarterback he shouldn't even get an interview. Clark's own words stated that we need to upgrade the position.

The thing I just don't get about Pioli was his stubborness to move away from Cassel. Was his ego that big really?
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You know, Cowher isn't my first choice either - but considering Clark isn't going to go the Gamble, Dorsey or Ross route, it might be the best option left.

Two things will decide how I view the Cowher hire, should it happen.

He better draft a QB at 1.1.

I want to see that he's able and willing to adapt to the fact this is a passing league. If he comes out with his RRPP bullshit trying to win games 10-7 like it's 1995 - I'm done.

I also hope to hell he surrounds himself with a great scouting department, because his draft history is spotty at best.
I think he's not going the gamble, Ross, etc. route is because he did that with Pioli and isn't giving someone that much control again.

They are going to want to hire their own coach and be in charge.

Obviously, by what he said, Clark doesn't want that. He wants them to both report to him
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The problem with Hunt bypassing the front office in hiring a coach is his lack of knowledge about football. I mean that is what a front office is for. If you are going to do it Clark's way, you need to do what San Diego did, and bring in a Ron Wolf as a hiring consultant.

In a sense, I don't think he is telling the truth about it being his baby -- he is either leaning on Pioli or he has all but fired Pioli and is leaning on someone like Marty.

Bypassing the front office for the most important decision they make without cleaning house makes no sense unless there is already a new shadow GM.
That's exactly what he's doing, IMO - along with a few others.
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Chiefs fans calling QBs easy picks. OK.

Just like that easy pick by GB in '05. Wasn't too easy for our stupid ****ing franchise.
Our franchise is a god damned anomaly.
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