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Old 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread
Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:39 PM   #421
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:39 PM   #422
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He's got a nice bat but he's even slower than Frenchy is and without the arm. He'd be a bumbling fool out there. Fun to watch though.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:41 PM   #423
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:43 PM   #424
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He's got a nice bat but he's even slower than Frenchy is and without the arm. He'd be a bumbling fool out there. Fun to watch though.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:45 PM   #425
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:09 PM   #426
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Bourjos would be a phenomenal get.
I definitely agree. Good and inexpensive--so I'm sure the prospect cost would be high. Probably too high, but GMDM should check to be sure.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:12 PM   #427
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Please and thank you make this happen. Would love it.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:27 PM   #428
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So Detroit had something like a 125M payroll or something. They can afford to sign Prince Fielder and Annibal Sanchez in successive years. Why? Where is the money coming from? Detroit is a big market? How are they affording these payrolls? They will be at 140M before you know it.
It's not NY or LA but Detroit is still a pretty big metro area... 4+ million people. It's top 10-15. Definitely bigger than KC, St. Louis, Cleveland, etc.

Plus Mike Ilitch is a billionaire. That probably has more to do with it.
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If DM is going all-in for 2013-14 with the Myers trade, then let's go all-in. Bourjos, Dickey, I'd be happy with either.

Bourjos makes $500K this year, is arb eligible in 2014 (but wouldn't break the bank), not a FA until 2017. What would it take to get him? Ventura-plus? Done.
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Are we talking about the same Bourjos that had a .291 obp last year?
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Are we talking about the same Bourjos that had a .291 obp last year?
I'd take a chance I'm getting the 4.8 WAR player from 2011.
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Well, if 2011 is the indicator then Frenchy might replicate his 2.9 WAR that year.
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Well, if 2011 is the indicator then Frenchy might replicate his 2.9 WAR that year.
4.8 > 2.9

Plus, Frenchy has a greater track record of NOT being good. His 2011 WAR was his highest, by far, since 2007.
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This is most likely correct. All this other talk is just mental masturbation.
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