Should the legal limit be higher???

[Sucky]

Personally I think it should be, I drove home last night and blew a .10 and was perfectly fine driving ( my buddy owns a breathilizer)

Just wondering what you folks think

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Nucky

From now on, I am NOT drinking & driving AND telling CP about it.

FYP

[SDChiefs]

I think it should be. 25. Drivings funner when youre buzzed. Plus you get less angry at the countless amount of morons driving on the road. I swear, do they even make people take driving tests anymore or do they just give them licenses and say "try not to kill anyone."

[KS Smitty]

No the legal limit shouldn't be higher and you're a dumbass.

[Bearcat]

I don't think raising the legal limit is a good idea, because I don't believe the legal limit needs to be the percentage where it puts yourself and others at a significantly greater risk.... and from everything I've ever read and heard, .08 doesn't put yourself or others at a significantly greater risk.

The actual math I've seen when it comes to reaction times (since it's used as a scare tactic for texting while driving) shows that .08 reduces your reaction time by less than a car length at 65mph, so if you find yourself in that kind of situation, you may very well be ****ed regardless. It doesn't mean your're going to run lights and stop signs, weave in and out of your lane, etc.

I guess a lot of people here have never driven home after a few beers at a game or a pint with dinner, because that's really what we're talking about. I don't think Nucky or anyone else is condoning drinking and driving or testing the legal limits, but I know it's a sensitive subject and understand the over-reaction.

[KS Smitty]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I don't think raising the legal limit is a good idea, because I don't believe the legal limit needs to be the percentage where it puts yourself and others at a significantly greater risk.... and from everything I've ever read and heard, .08 doesn't put yourself or others at a significantly greater risk.

The actual math I've seen when it comes to reaction times (since it's used as a scare tactic for texting while driving) shows that .08 reduces your reaction time by less than a car length at 65mph, so if you find yourself in that kind of situation, you may very well be ****ed regardless. It doesn't mean your're going to run lights and stop signs, weave in and out of your lane, etc.

I guess a lot of people here have never driven home after a few beers at a game or a pint with dinner, because that's really what we're talking about. I don't think Nucky or anyone else is condoning drinking and driving or testing the legal limits, but I know it's a sensitive subject and understand the over-reaction.

Given my "advanced age" and more lenient alcohol laws when I was younger, I can tell you Bearcat (as much as I love ya) you are full of shit. "But for the Grace of God" is the only reason I'm still here, Some can say it's superb driving skills but it's really only the luck of the draw. I grew up in a fairly rural area and to this day I can say that of all my friends that were killed in auto accidents, alcohol was a contributing factor in 90% of them.
I can also attest (with witnesses) to driving or riding with someone so drunk that we shoulda died, yet we survived. Drinking and driving is stupid, and I have been that stupid more than once.

For ANYONE to think alcohol had no effect on these incidences even taking place is way loonier than an old hippie like me.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

Given my "advanced age" and more lenient alcohol laws when I was younger, I can tell you Bearcat (as much as I love ya) you are full of shit. "But for the Grace of God" is the only reason I'm still here, Some can say it's superb driving skills but it's really only the luck of the draw. I grew up in a fairly rural area and to this day I can say that of all my friends that were killed in auto accidents, alcohol was a contributing factor in 90% of them.
I can also attest (with witnesses) to driving or riding with someone so drunk that we shoulda died, yet we survived. Drinking and driving is stupid, and I have been that stupid more than once.

For ANYONE to think alcohol had no effect on these incidences even taking place is way loonier than an old hippie like me.

If you're an old hippie then I, in good conscience, can't believe any word out of your mouth or typed from your thoughts. Sorry.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

Given my "advanced age" and more lenient alcohol laws when I was younger, I can tell you Bearcat (as much as I love ya) you are full of shit. "But for the Grace of God" is the only reason I'm still here, Some can say it's superb driving skills but it's really only the luck of the draw. I grew up in a fairly rural area and to this day I can say that of all my friends that were killed in auto accidents, alcohol was a contributing factor in 90% of them.
I can also attest (with witnesses) to driving or riding with someone so drunk that we shoulda died, yet we survived. Drinking and driving is stupid, and I have been that stupid more than once.

For ANYONE to think alcohol had no effect on these incidences even taking place is way loonier than an old hippie like me.

I didn't say alcohol has no effect and I'm not condoning driving with .00001% or .08 or .20... I said based on everything I've ever read/heard, .08 doesn't have a significant effect.

If you're saying you know of many people who have been involved in drunk driving accidents who had a BAC of ~.08, then I could very well be full of shit.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

If you're an old hippie then I, in good conscience, can't believe any word out of your mouth or typed from your thoughts. Sorry.

Thats because you are truly an idiot.

[KS Smitty]

[QUOTE=Bearcat;8791898]I didn't say alcohol has no effect and I'm not condoning driving with .00001% or .08 or .20... I said based on everything I've ever read/heard, .08 doesn't have a significant effect.

If you're saying you know of many people who have been involved in drunk driving accidents who had a BAC of ~.08, then I could very well be full of shit.[/QUOTE]

Yes you are.

[KS Smitty]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

If you're an old hippie then I, in good conscience, can't believe any word out of your mouth or typed from your thoughts. Sorry.

Was I typing to you? I do believe I was addressing that foxy Bearcat, so back off!

[Shaid]

Not sure what it is everywhere, but here it's .08. Used to be .10 but apparently that made it so if you had one beer you'd still blow legal so they lowered it. I personally don't think one beer impairs you unless you weigh less than 100 or something. I think it is a little too strict. .10 seems fine to me.

[mr. tegu]

It seems some people are missing the point. People blasting the OP are not saying he was drunk or that average people that blow a 0.08 are drunk. These people are buzzed and judgment is impaired. The OP is getting blasted, and those defending him by using the "get off your high horse" card because he is suggesting maybe it should be legal to get even MORE buzzed. What good does that do anybody? None. And I have never been even remotely buzzed and driven because I don't really drink at all.

And yeah many people are a little messed up when they drive and nobody is perfect but most people before they drive they don't use a breathalyzer, blow too much, drive home safely and say to themselves, "what's the big deal I could have had been fine with more alcohol." That distinction is why the OP is getting beat down and deservedly so.

[DaneMcCloud]

This guy is mult. First it's smoking, now it's drinking.

Please, don't feed the ****ing assholes.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Shaid

Not sure what it is everywhere, but here it's .08. Used to be .10 but apparently that made it so if you had one beer you'd still blow legal so they lowered it. I personally don't think one beer impairs you unless you weigh less than 100 or something. I think it is a little too strict. .10 seems fine to me.

Takes quite a bit more than one beer to blow .1.

[johnny961]

Originally Posted by Shaid

Not sure what it is everywhere, but here it's .08. Used to be .10 but apparently that made it so if you had one beer you'd still blow legal so they lowered it. I personally don't think one beer impairs you unless you weigh less than 100 or something. I think it is a little too strict. .10 seems fine to me.

There are alot of stories floating around out there about how more than one beer you are legally intoxicated. Not necessarily true. Granted for a small person it may be less but in the majority of cases those who get gigged for a DWI have had considerably more than the "couple of beers" that they claim. The person drinking an honest one or two 12oz beers with their pizza is likely not even going to get questioned over it if they do get stopped.