2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Royals negotiated for "Event Day Operations" to be a part of the lease, which has screwed taxpayers.

Wow...unbelievable...

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis

So essentially the Royals are collecting tax payer money for services rendered and pocketing the balance?

Is anyone honestly surprised?

Jackson County was completely f'n reeruned for not demanding more transparency and capital investment from the Royals before bending over and agreeing to their stadium demands.

Not only is Glasshole putting a shit product on the field, he is also now stealing from KC residents.

TRUE. BLUE. TRADITION.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Is anyone honestly surprised?

Jackson County was completely f'n reeruned for not demanding more transparency and capital investment from the Royals before bending over and agreeing to their stadium demands.

Not only is Glasshole putting a shit product on the field, he is also now stealing from KC residents.

TRUE. BLUE. TRADITION.

Kietzman had one of the board members (might not be exact title, but you get the gist) for the Sports Trust (again, could be ****ing up exact name, working from memory), and he conceded that there is little doubt that the lease agreement is a bad deal for taxpayers.

I was pretty surprised that he was willing to make that type of statement.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Is anyone honestly surprised?

Jackson County was completely f'n reeruned for not demanding more transparency and capital investment from the Royals before bending over and agreeing to their stadium demands.

Not only is Glasshole putting a shit product on the field, he is also now stealing from KC residents.

TRUE. BLUE. TRADITION.

Walmart tradition.

[stonedstooge]

David Glass and Clar Khunt say- "Kansas City is easy pickins"

[ChiefsCountry]

Now Keitzman go dig on the Chiefs lease while you are at. Oh wait, you are the Chiefs post game show home - so scratch that.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by stonedstooge

David Gl. Ass and Clar Khunt say- "Kansas City is easy pickins"

Sadly it is our apologetic, "We are lucky to have a team" that makes us suffer from something akin to battered woman syndrom.

Royals: It will be better, i promise baby, its "Our Time"?

Royals fan: Really?! Ok, Ill buy your tickets, your jerseys, watch your games..

100 losses and two black eyes later what have we learned?

****!!

[gblowfish]

Screwing people over and avoiding taxes is how you get rich, silly rubes.

[gblowfish]

$5.6 million would pay for half a starter.

[Nightfyre]

Looks like we got a couple talented lottery tickets for Broxton, which is nice. Joseph will need to be on the forty man roster next year, though. It will be interesting to see how the roster gets juggled to insulate the Royals from the Rule 5 draft over the next few years.

[petegz28]

What a scam the Glass family has going.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Looks like we got a couple talented lottery tickets for Broxton, which is nice. Joseph will need to be on the forty man roster next year, though. It will be interesting to see how the roster gets juggled to insulate the Royals from the Rule 5 draft over the next few years.

# Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
47 Nathan Adcock * R-R 6'4" 225 Feb 25, 1988
45 Noel Arguelles * L-L 6'3" 225 Jan 12, 1990
67 Francisley Bueno * L-L 5'11" 200 Mar 5, 1981
52 Bruce Chen L-L 6'2" 210 Jun 19, 1977
31 Louis Coleman R-R 6'4" 205 Apr 4, 1986
55 Tim Collins L-L 5'7" 165 Aug 21, 1989
43 Aaron Crow R-R 6'3" 190 Nov 10, 1986
23 Danny Duffy Disabled List 60-day DL ** L-L 6'3" 200 Dec 21, 1988
33 Jeremy Guthrie R-R 6'1" 205 Apr 8, 1979
40 Kelvin Herrera R-R 5'10" 190 Dec 31, 1989
44 Luke Hochevar R-R 6'5" 220 Sep 15, 1983
56 Greg Holland R-R 5'10" 195 Nov 20, 1985
46 Tommy Hottovy * L-L 6'1" 195 Jul 9, 1981
41 Jeremy Jeffress * R-R 6'0" 195 Sep 21, 1987
32 Vin Mazzaro * R-R 6'2" 220 Sep 27, 1986
39 Luis Mendoza R-R 6'3" 240 Oct 31, 1983
50 Jose Mijares L-L 6'0" 230 Oct 29, 1984
59 Felipe Paulino Disabled List 60-day DL ** R-R 6'2" 270 Oct 5, 1983
53 Will Smith R-L 6'5" 240 Jul 10, 1989
48 Joakim Soria Disabled List 60-day DL ** R-R 6'3" 200 May 18, 1984
61 Everett Teaford L-L 6'0" 165 May 15, 1984
62 Ryan Verdugo * L-L 6'0" 195 Apr 10, 1987
38 Blake Wood Disabled List 60-day DL ** R-R 6'5" 240 Aug 8, 1985
# Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
Adam Moore * R-R 6'3" 220 May 8, 1984
27 Brayan Pena S-R 5'9" 230 Jan 7, 1982
13 Salvador Perez R-R 6'3" 245 May 10, 1990
28 Manny Pina * R-R 6'0" 215 Jun 5, 1987
# Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
11 Yuniesky Betancourt R-R 5'11" 205 Jan 31, 1982
16 Billy Butler R-R 6'1" 240 Apr 18, 1986
2 Alcides Escobar R-R 6'1" 190 Dec 16, 1986
19 Irving Falu * S-R 5'10" 180 Jun 6, 1983
17 Chris Getz L-R 5'11" 185 Aug 30, 1983
9 Johnny Giavotella * R-R 5'8" 185 Jul 10, 1987
35 Eric Hosmer L-L 6'4" 230 Oct 24, 1989
8 Mike Moustakas L-R 6'0" 215 Sep 11, 1988
25 Clint Robinson * L-L 6'5" 240 Feb 16, 1985
# Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
30 Jason Bourgeois * R-R 5'9" 195 Jan 4, 1982
6 Lorenzo Cain R-R 6'2" 200 Apr 13, 1986
1 Jarrod Dyson L-R 5'9" 165 Aug 15, 1984
21 Jeff Francoeur R-R 6'4" 210 Jan 8, 1984
4 Alex Gordon L-R 6'1" 220 Feb 10, 1984
18 David Lough * L-L 5'11" 185 Jan 20, 1986
26 Derrick Robinson * S-L 5'11" 185 Sep 28, 1987

Guys bolded (9 in all) are all easy to cut ties with.

Moore is going to need to get creative in swapping some of the marginal guys this offseason. Not a ton, but 2-3. Guys like Lough, Robinson, Coleman, etc. who are not part of the long-term plans but who can be used as a somewhat valuable trade commodity. An extra piece that helps get the job done.

Best-case scenario might be if Holland kicks ass as the closer down the stretch, and they move him at high value, maybe packaged with Mijares, a legit prospect, and a lottery ticket to bring in some starting pitching.

Bullpen guys are expendable. Especially when you have so many good young ones. The Royals won't want to go to arb with ALL of the rookie relievers from last year at the same time as they go to arb with Moose and Hosmer. Might as well move them before that happens, when you still have max leverage, for a key piece.

[Stanley Nickels]

Well, is it illegal for the Royals to use taxpayer money to pay their own taxes?

That's the only part of the 810 story that might hold some weight from a legal issue. The other facts only itemize the type of things we already knew the Royals would do with the money.

[Stanley Nickels]

The items listed on air by Keitzman are, by and large, things that I would think *any* ballclub would spend taxes on. The actual amount of the stimulus that the Royals have spent, as well as the issue of using taxpayer money to pay their own taxes, are very disconcerting. The rest is part of renovating any stadium in any city, for any sport.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

The items listed on air by Keitzman are, by and large, things that I would think *any* ballclub would spend taxes on. The actual amount of the stimulus that the Royals have spent, as well as the issue of using taxpayer money to pay their own taxes, are very disconcerting. The rest is part of renovating any stadium in any city, for any sport.

Paying the cable bill is normal renovation?