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Old 03-16-2011, 06:42 PM  
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What was your favorite episode of Star Trek: TNG?

Okay okay okay... quit calling me late to the party. I do this with every popular show out there-- I start watching after it's been off the air for at least a few years. I did it with Frasier, Red Dwarf (although there are new episodes being made) and now I'm doing it with the Star Trek franchise. Back off. I know there are Star Trek fans on this forum, and if you've noticed my posting style (although I have no idea why you would) a lot of my posts are Star Trek-centric. This is why:

My job in the past few months had late hours, so I'd get home and be able to watch one episode per day at 1 in the morning. But man, it was great. I just turned it on one day and started watching and never stopped. Anyway, the series has run its cycle now. I've seen all seven seasons plus the movies (except for Insurrection, which I'll get around to eventually). I've also seen the new one by JJ Abrams. At the moment I'm slowly progressing through DS9 and a handful of the original series.

But until I get through it all, I know TNG is pretty much the only series beloved by ALL Trek fans, not just some.

Here are my personal top 5 episodes in no particular order. I couldn't rank them accurately.

1. "The Most Toys" (S3E22)- There's nothing incredibly powerful or ground-breaking about the plot or the way it was written. But it's very dramatic and quite colorful, which I think is what Star Trek is all about. I kind of have a weakness for Data-centered episodes, and this one is particularly good. It's odd, esoteric, and particularly intense considering he's being held captive as an object in a collection of toys, when really he's the being with the highest code of ethics on the entire rogue ship

2. "The Silicon Avatar" (S5E4)- Perhaps the most tragic of all the TNG episodes. I mean, TNG does this all the time where something bad happens but it ends on a hopeful note- Tasha Yar's death, Worf's vengeance against Duras, etc. Not in this one. It ends on a tragic note, with the doctor now only left to her own madness and questioning of her actions for the rest of her life.

3. "Yesterday's Enterprise" (S3E15)- This episode is on most peoples' lists. I normally hate causality/time travel shit in sci-fi movies/stories. It almost never works out. Here it DOES work out and it's absolutely brilliant. People claim that Picard's decision-making is totally irrational and not at all what a starfleet officer would even consider. Well guess what? He's Picard, and when his back is to the wall he often makes decisions that violate starfleet regulation/the prime directive. And it's not THAT unrealistic. He knows what Guinan is capable of and he also knows that the Federation is going to lose the war. May as well send Tasha Yar back, right?

4. "The Chase" (S6E20)- This is one of those episodes that years from now will be considered genius in a Jules Verne kind of way. This is exactly what science fiction is all about- create a universe and try to explain it. If/when humans discover life elsewhere in the universe we're going to have to answer some real tough biological questions. In the Star Trek universe, this one does a brilliant job of it. I was totally blown away. That takes some real creative-ass minds to think of that kind of shit.

5. "I, Borg" (S5E23)- I chose this borg episode instead of The Best of Both Worlds mainly because it exposes a different side to the story instead of just "We need to find a way to kill the borg nao!" And that different story is: "When we DO find a way to eradicate the borg, are we going to have the balls to do it?" Picard's actions in this episode come up time and time again later in the series/movies (especially First Contact, obviously) and here is one of the most questionable decisions he makes in his entire career as captain of the Enterprise. And yet it's so well-written that viewers of this episode more often than not finding themselves siding with Picard, even though they face a fictional race/character who is more violent, hated, and ire-raising than Nazis.

These are just some episodes I brought up. I'm not bringing up more incase this thread dies quickly. I've already wasted enough time typing this out as it is.
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:17 AM   #196
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Old 05-28-2011, 12:08 PM   #197
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'Inner Light' is the best written and most emotional of all the episodes of TNG. Before 'Best of Both Worlds' there was talk of the show being cancelled. The good moments in season 1 and 2 were few and far between.

I go back to the TOS days, but I have to call DS9 the best series. Some were turned off by the spiritual nature of the first season, but in truth everything that happened in those early episodes led up to the finale. They had some very good actors and characters on that show and worked together very well.

Voyager is the anti-DS9. Horrible acting, almost as bad as Enterprise. Enterprise hired their crew to be the best looking crew, not for their acting ability. On Voyager Robert Beltran could have read his lines offstage while they showed a cardboard cutout of him and the emotional result would have been the same. When your best actor plays a character who isn't even real, there's some trouble. They spat out the scientific poop and hit the temporal reset button so many times it broke. They even had one episode where the Doc's mobile emitter was found thousands of years later with his program inside. He showed up in the next episode with no explanation. The only thing that saved that show from cancellation was 7 of 44DD.
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Old 05-28-2011, 12:53 PM   #198
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Kirk is still the best Star Trek captain of all times!!!!
Eh. As a character he's a little shallow until the movies.

Sisko > Picard > TOS Kirk
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Old 05-28-2011, 12:57 PM   #199
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Some were turned off by the spiritual nature of the first season, but in truth everything that happened in those early episodes led up to the finale.
The nice thing about religion in DS9 (and star trek in general) is it's really a mirror for our own culture.

DS9 does a great job showing how religion can either be a force for good or for evil.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:58 PM   #200
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The nice thing about religion in DS9 (and star trek in general) is it's really a mirror for our own culture.

DS9 does a great job showing how religion can either be a force for good or for evil.
Heh. My buddy and I were talking about how each alien race reflects a current ethnic/national/racial identity.

(Yes, these are jokes. Don't get offended)

Cardassians = Russians/Soviets
Bajorans = Afghanis/Iraqis
Ferengi = Jews
Vulcans = Chinese
Betazoids = Australians
Romulans = Nazi Germany
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:45 PM   #201
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:42 AM   #202
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Heh. My buddy and I were talking about how each alien race reflects a current ethnic/national/racial identity.

(Yes, these are jokes. Don't get offended)

Cardassians = Russians/Soviets
Bajorans = Afghanis/Iraqis
Ferengi = Jews
Vulcans = Chinese
Betazoids = Australians
Romulans = Nazi Germany
The Klingons were supposed to be Russia in STVI.

The Cardassians are Nazi Germany and the Romulans are the Japanese. That makes the Bajorans Jews though and I'm not sure where the Dominion fit in. Oh, wait, the Dominon are the Catholic Church.
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For some reason I enjoy Voyager and I think I figured out why:

It's like popcorn cartoon star trek.

Only with live action.

Never could watch Enterprise. No LCARS, NO WATCHING!
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For some reason I enjoy Voyager and I think I figured out why:

It's like popcorn cartoon star trek.

Only with live action.

Never could watch Enterprise. No LCARS, NO WATCHING!
Voyager got much better after the first 2 seasons. Still does not hold a candle to STTNG or DS9.
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I think the reason most people had that reaction to Best of Both Worlds is Patrick Stewart.

People were emotionally attached to the character of Picard.

What a great actor...
Gotta give TNG credit.

Until Picard, male leads had always been either male model types, or quirky, eccentric characters.

Picard was an older, balding, frail looking man, who had no funny quirks or eccentricities, and I thought at the time that it would never work.
No one was going to buy into his character.

But Stewart sold the character, and he became the epitome of authority and leadership.



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the only episode that I watched all the way through (I dont remember the name of it) was about a crew member that was addicted to the holodeck. I dont remember all the details but the gist of it was that the guy would spend all of his time in the holodeck talking to women. Eventually the crew noticed the guy was never around and was neglecting his duties. So Riker shuts down the holodeck and gives the guy a talking to. then the holobater guy lost it and started crying.

it was so unintentionally funny.

Beyond that, I couldn't stand TNG. I've seen all of the original series and loved those. TNG didn't have the same appeal because the Captain Picard character doesn't have any swagger. Kirk was the shit. He wasnt afraid to slap a bitch if he had to, and if that didn't work, he would seduce a green skinned ho.

And nobody on TNG looks as good as Uhura did in her prime.
Not sure about swagger, but he was, as I said, the very picture of authority.

And I'd trade you 5 Uhura's for Ensign Ro.
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And what I want to know is,what the hell is wrong with Ryker?

That guy walked like he had a board coming out of his ass and nailed to his left side.
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Not a big Trekie as such, although over teh years, it ends up being what was on tv that night type of thing. But the wife is a HUGE trekkie, AND Star Wars fan.

Origional series:
The wives of Harry Mudd (may have title wrong)
Dude makes all these slammen women, Kirk figures out that lying to one short circuts them, Mudd gets left with a version of his dead wife who wont shut up

The trouble with Tribbles:
Only name title that ever stuck in my head.

Enterprise:
I actually liked that series, the Vulcan was HOT!! Loved the episode where it went back and showed how they did the first Warp flight.

Next Gen:
Pick one. The whole series was great. Every series has high and low points, but for a series to pick up where Capt.Kirk left us....Bravo!!

Deep Space 9:
The tall brunett with lepord spots is all I cared for on that one. Just couldn't get into it at all

Voyager:
By this time I'm burned out on ST,NG,DS9, but I loved the one where Harry manages to send 7 of 9 the message from the future that they will die if they don't change how they try a new warp design. In real time they follow the new small craft Harry builds, he and his partner make it back, Voyager ends up crashing on a planet. He figures out how to tap into 7of9's borg mind and send a message that stops the whole thing from happening.
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And what I want to know is,what the hell is wrong with Ryker?

That guy walked like he had a board coming out of his ass and nailed to his left side.
He wore a corset after he started getting fat.
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