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Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

**jAZ** · 06-13-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by healthpellets

in case you want to track what is believed to be Larry Scott's plane, here's the flight tracker from Austin to KC.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N228PK

We used that during our coaching search to track who was going where. We had the code for our top boosters plane. Really messed with their efforts to keep negotiations quiet (and pressure off of the coach in each home city).

WilliamTheIrish · 06-13-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N228PK

Yea, yea. I've been all over that plane since it took off from Cal.

Pablo · 06-13-2010, 05:59 PM

Can someone PLEASE post a link for the Pac10 Commish's plane?????

WilliamTheIrish · 06-13-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

We used that during our coaching search to track who was going where. We had the code for our top boosters plane. Really messed with their efforts to keep negotiations quiet (and pressure off of the coach in each home city).

Used it track the movements of the WVU plane that spirited Huggs out of MHK.

healthpellets · 06-13-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

Can someone PLEASE post a link for the Pac10 Commish's plane?????

you just got put on double secret probation.

Bambi · 06-13-2010, 06:00 PM

I believe Sporting News picked Kansas to finish 2nd in the Big 12 North after Nebraska.

**Reaper16** · 06-13-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

I believe Sporting News picked Kansas to finish 2nd in the Big 12 North after Nebraska.

It wouldn't surprise me if you and KnowMo were editors of The Sporting News.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 06-13-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

For the record, as a KU FOOTBALL fan. Pac-10 is the most attractive option out of anything.

why, so you can see up close how much better a coach Jim Harbaugh is than Gill?

kstater · 06-13-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

I believe Sporting News picked Kansas to finish 2nd in the Big 12 North after Nebraska.

Didn't they say that last year before, you know, finishing 12th out of 12?

**ChiTown** · 06-13-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

It wouldn't surprise me if you and KnowMo were editors of The Sporting News.

teedubya · 06-13-2010, 06:03 PM

With the Big 12 Collapsing, What Will Happen to Kansas?

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0qmTg1GKr

At the Allen Fieldhouse at the University of Kansas, reverent basketball fans can slip in to center court to soak up Jayhawk history. And that's a lot of history. Wilt Chamberlain played here. The building is named for Hall of Fame coach F.C. "Phog" Allen. And the road out front commemorates an earlier coach, James Naismith, who — no exaggeration — invented basketball. Three national titles, repeated conference championships — KU is indisputably among the elite basketball programs in the nation.
Now the Jayhawks are wondering what conference will have them. After 16 years of uneasy coexistence, the Big 12 — the powerhouse affiliation of heartland college sports teams including Kansas, archrival Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma — is on the verge of collapse. The University of Nebraska, prized for its history as a football powerhouse, announced Friday it is headed to the Big 10, drawn by the older league's lucrative TV network. Colorado has bolted for the Pac-10. With the door wide open, the Big 12's powers in the south, including Texas and Oklahoma, appear poised to split, too. A decision is expected within days.
(Read "NCAA Mulls Expanding March Madness. Are They Mad?")
That could leave the Jayhawks stranded in the wreckage of the conference they helped to build — a conference steeped in history, based on a century-old alliance among rivals here in the valley of the Missouri River. "One hundred years of tradition, just being thrown away," sighed Daniel Roth, a KU senior who stole onto the Allen Fieldhouse court to show the hallowed place to his family, visiting from Dallas.
Some see the Big 12 shakeup as the first tremor of a nationwide, seismic realignment of major college sports, which until now have been organized in geographic clusters. The driving force is television dollars: over the next few years, four "super conferences" of 16 teams each could emerge, potentially producing super revenues. But a steep price might be paid in lost history.
At the Free State Brewing Co. in the heart of this historic college town, 40-year-old Kansas grad Jeff Landes paused during his lunch hour to fret. "It would be a real shame, because basketball as we know it would be over," he said. That may be an exaggeration, but he certainly captured the mood. If Missouri and Kansas end up in different conferences, it will disrupt one of the nation's oldest sports rivalries. Kansas and Missouri, the scene of some of the bitterest guerilla fighting in the Civil War, have launched their flagship football teams at one another for 118 years. Kansas and Nebraska have been going at it just as long.
(See the top 10 NCAA tournament first round upsets.)
And history counts around here. Patrons at the brew pub sip ales with names like John Brown and Josiah Miller, the anti-slavery activist who coined the state's motto, "Ad Astra per Aspera" — "to the stars through difficulties."
This has certainly been a difficult week, leaving Kansans shocked, anxious, even downright depressed. Basketball is big as ever at KU, thanks to current coach Bill Self, who couldn't inspire more awe around here if he walked across the Kansas River on his way to the office. But the conference realignment is all about football, because that's where the big money is. Texas and Oklahoma are football behemoths, and now they hold the fate of the Big 12 in their hands.
A columnist for the Kansas City Star called this potentially the "darkest sports hour" in the region's history. "If today is when the Big 12 really ends, this is something bigger, something scarier, something more permanent," Sam Mellinger wrote. "It's quite possible that Kansas City's college sports scene will never fully recover, will never again be as competitive or meaningful." On the 50,000-watt sports radio station that blankets the prairie, a commentator soothed potential callers: "We'll talk you off the bridge, we'll talk you off the ledge."
"It feels like The Grapes of Wrath — everyone is leaving," said Brett Beneke, a 23-year-old recent KU grad, on break from his job at a campus bagel shop. Part of the despair comes from the fact that this all seems so sudden. True, tensions between Nebraska and Texas simmered from the birth of the conference in 1994, when the old Big Eight absorbed the swaggering Longhorns and other refugees from the old Southwest Conference. And Missouri had been flirting with the Big 10 for months. (The romance apparently sputtered, and Nebraska wound up at the altar.) In spite of it all, the Big 12 never seemed stronger than this year, with teams high in the rankings of sport after sport after sport.
But beyond Texas, the Big 12 just doesn't have a lot of TV sets, and the conference was slow to face up to that problem. There's a feeling that the Big 10 — another history-drenched conference centered in the Midwest, and anchored by such teams as Michigan and Ohio State — outfoxed the Big 12 by putting together its own TV network, which has proved to be a cash cow for members. Nebraska's share of Big 12 TV revenues was $10 million a year; reportedly, the pact with the Big 10 will double that to $20 million.
At Kansas State, where the men's basketball team roared into the Elite Eight this season, coach Frank Martin called it a "crying shame" that "money, greed and jealousies" threatened to ruin historic relationships — not to mention leaving his Wildcats in the cold. Iowa State and Baylor, too, appear on the verge of homelessness.
(See the top 10 blown calls.)
U.S. Senators from Kansas and Iowa have lamented the potential breakup, but concede that there is little Congress can do. It all comes down to Texas, which could save the conference by sticking around and inviting a couple of other schools — speculation suggests Texas Christian University and Arkansas — to fill the slots opened by Nebraska and Colorado.
"Is the ship blowing completely apart, or can we bring in two new schools and patch the hole?" mused another fan at the Free State pub, Kevin Edwards. For the time being, Jayhawk fans distract themselves from their worries by moving an endless assortment of colleges around a mental chessboard. Suppose Texas goes to the Pac 10 but Texas A&M heads instead to the SEC — would that leave room for Kansas in the western super conference? Or maybe KU will latch on to the other coast, finding a home in an expanded Big East conference. The permutations are endless, for the time being.
Kansas coach Self has projected calm throughout, assuring fans that the school will end up in a power conference. "All of a sudden we became more attractive to people ... We may land in a group that gives us more exposure," Self told reporters Friday night, raising hopes. Was a behind-the-scenes deal in the works? Missouri fans, too, studied tea leaves, noticing that university officials did not look particularly stressed by the tumultuous week. As one Missouri alum said: "Maybe they have an ace up their sleeve."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0qmTg1GKr

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 06-13-2010, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by healthpellets

in case you want to track what is believed to be Larry Scott's plane, here's the flight tracker from Austin to KC.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N228PK

Was in Salina on June 3. KSU to the Pac X!

Pablo · 06-13-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

It wouldn't surprise me if you and KnowMo were editors of The Sporting News.

KnowMo, Wickedson, and RustShack should all create a new sports journal:

Totally unbiased sports report on the Greatest NFL and NCAA programs

Mr. Laz · 06-13-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Hatch is a good chip to have lying around then.

anything you can hang on to keep KU from being selected

RustShack · 06-13-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

I believe Sporting News picked Kansas to finish 2nd in the Big 12 North after Nebraska.

Is that possible when their team is a lot worse than it was last year?

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska. Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is. He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports. "We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about." The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on. The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement. http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html Last edited by Mr. Laz; 06-10-2010 at 02:57 PM..
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teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9003042	With the Big 12 Collapsing, What Will Happen to Kansas? Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0qmTg1GKr At the Allen Fieldhouse at the University of Kansas, reverent basketball fans can slip in to center court to soak up Jayhawk history. And that's a lot of history. Wilt Chamberlain played here. The building is named for Hall of Fame coach F.C. "Phog" Allen. And the road out front commemorates an earlier coach, James Naismith, who — no exaggeration — invented basketball. Three national titles, repeated conference championships — KU is indisputably among the elite basketball programs in the nation. Now the Jayhawks are wondering what conference will have them. After 16 years of uneasy coexistence, the Big 12 — the powerhouse affiliation of heartland college sports teams including Kansas, archrival Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma — is on the verge of collapse. The University of Nebraska, prized for its history as a football powerhouse, announced Friday it is headed to the Big 10, drawn by the older league's lucrative TV network. Colorado has bolted for the Pac-10. With the door wide open, the Big 12's powers in the south, including Texas and Oklahoma, appear poised to split, too. A decision is expected within days. (Read "NCAA Mulls Expanding March Madness. Are They Mad?") That could leave the Jayhawks stranded in the wreckage of the conference they helped to build — a conference steeped in history, based on a century-old alliance among rivals here in the valley of the Missouri River. "One hundred years of tradition, just being thrown away," sighed Daniel Roth, a KU senior who stole onto the Allen Fieldhouse court to show the hallowed place to his family, visiting from Dallas. Some see the Big 12 shakeup as the first tremor of a nationwide, seismic realignment of major college sports, which until now have been organized in geographic clusters. The driving force is television dollars: over the next few years, four "super conferences" of 16 teams each could emerge, potentially producing super revenues. But a steep price might be paid in lost history. At the Free State Brewing Co. in the heart of this historic college town, 40-year-old Kansas grad Jeff Landes paused during his lunch hour to fret. "It would be a real shame, because basketball as we know it would be over," he said. That may be an exaggeration, but he certainly captured the mood. If Missouri and Kansas end up in different conferences, it will disrupt one of the nation's oldest sports rivalries. Kansas and Missouri, the scene of some of the bitterest guerilla fighting in the Civil War, have launched their flagship football teams at one another for 118 years. Kansas and Nebraska have been going at it just as long. (See the top 10 NCAA tournament first round upsets.) And history counts around here. Patrons at the brew pub sip ales with names like John Brown and Josiah Miller, the anti-slavery activist who coined the state's motto, "Ad Astra per Aspera" — "to the stars through difficulties." This has certainly been a difficult week, leaving Kansans shocked, anxious, even downright depressed. Basketball is big as ever at KU, thanks to current coach Bill Self, who couldn't inspire more awe around here if he walked across the Kansas River on his way to the office. But the conference realignment is all about football, because that's where the big money is. Texas and Oklahoma are football behemoths, and now they hold the fate of the Big 12 in their hands. A columnist for the Kansas City Star called this potentially the "darkest sports hour" in the region's history. "If today is when the Big 12 really ends, this is something bigger, something scarier, something more permanent," Sam Mellinger wrote. "It's quite possible that Kansas City's college sports scene will never fully recover, will never again be as competitive or meaningful." On the 50,000-watt sports radio station that blankets the prairie, a commentator soothed potential callers: "We'll talk you off the bridge, we'll talk you off the ledge." "It feels like The Grapes of Wrath — everyone is leaving," said Brett Beneke, a 23-year-old recent KU grad, on break from his job at a campus bagel shop. Part of the despair comes from the fact that this all seems so sudden. True, tensions between Nebraska and Texas simmered from the birth of the conference in 1994, when the old Big Eight absorbed the swaggering Longhorns and other refugees from the old Southwest Conference. And Missouri had been flirting with the Big 10 for months. (The romance apparently sputtered, and Nebraska wound up at the altar.) In spite of it all, the Big 12 never seemed stronger than this year, with teams high in the rankings of sport after sport after sport. But beyond Texas, the Big 12 just doesn't have a lot of TV sets, and the conference was slow to face up to that problem. There's a feeling that the Big 10 — another history-drenched conference centered in the Midwest, and anchored by such teams as Michigan and Ohio State — outfoxed the Big 12 by putting together its own TV network, which has proved to be a cash cow for members. Nebraska's share of Big 12 TV revenues was $10 million a year; reportedly, the pact with the Big 10 will double that to $20 million. At Kansas State, where the men's basketball team roared into the Elite Eight this season, coach Frank Martin called it a "crying shame" that "money, greed and jealousies" threatened to ruin historic relationships — not to mention leaving his Wildcats in the cold. Iowa State and Baylor, too, appear on the verge of homelessness. (See the top 10 blown calls.) U.S. Senators from Kansas and Iowa have lamented the potential breakup, but concede that there is little Congress can do. It all comes down to Texas, which could save the conference by sticking around and inviting a couple of other schools — speculation suggests Texas Christian University and Arkansas — to fill the slots opened by Nebraska and Colorado. "Is the ship blowing completely apart, or can we bring in two new schools and patch the hole?" mused another fan at the Free State pub, Kevin Edwards. For the time being, Jayhawk fans distract themselves from their worries by moving an endless assortment of colleges around a mental chessboard. Suppose Texas goes to the Pac 10 but Texas A&M heads instead to the SEC — would that leave room for Kansas in the western super conference? Or maybe KU will latch on to the other coast, finding a home in an expanded Big East conference. The permutations are endless, for the time being. Kansas coach Self has projected calm throughout, assuring fans that the school will end up in a power conference. "All of a sudden we became more attractive to people ... We may land in a group that gives us more exposure," Self told reporters Friday night, raising hopes. Was a behind-the-scenes deal in the works? Missouri fans, too, studied tea leaves, noticing that university officials did not look particularly stressed by the tumultuous week. As one Missouri alum said: "Maybe they have an ace up their sleeve." Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0qmTg1GKr
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