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Old 04-30-2010, 08:41 PM  
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Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

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Old 06-06-2010, 08:38 PM   #1381
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Although the Championship game can end up hurting teams more than it helps it's still a bigtime event. And it gives us what we all want in the end, more football.
I agree. I'm for a National Championship playoff series; I just like the non-playoff regular season the B10 has always had. I'm prepared for the fact that may be coming to an end.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:39 PM   #1382
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Very interesting read.Is the B12 Commish as bad as the article paints him to be?
He's a sock puppet, with Texas' hand up his ass and controlling his every action.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:40 PM   #1383
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He's a sock puppet, with Texas' hand up his ass and controlling his every action.
That is a visual I really didn't need. I take it there is some resentment among non-Texas B12 schools that the commish doesn't represent all their interests equally?
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:42 PM   #1384
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haha, it would be funny for Bebee to stand up tomorrow and say this...

It’s almost assuredly too late for the Big 12 and the Big East to make the bold moves that could save them.

They could try though. If Beebe and current Big East commissioner John Marinatto want to display real leadership, they can tell their current members to sit tight and allow them to build a consensus for a real football postseason that will solve all their revenue problems. They need to stand up and declare Armageddon is here and it’s time to get serious. The other leagues and Notre Dame would be all for it. The SEC and ACC would be smart to approve simply as a defense against Big Ten and Pac-10 aggression. Or in the ACC’s case, the inevitable SEC pillaging of its teams.

Go ahead and dare the Big Ten and Pac-10 to not come along. See how long Gordon Gee lasts as Ohio State president when he tells Buckeye fans they will no longer be competing for the national title. In the meantime, send your recruiters to Cleveland and Detroit.

A 16-team playoff could be up and running by 2014 – which would immediately change all the revenue models.

Then Beebe could show that teams such as Nebraska and Texas could make more money while enjoying a clearer road to that thrilling postseason by staying home. He would be able to offer a future that’s brighter than the one offered by the Big Ten or Pac-10.

At the end of the day this has always been about the BCS and billions in revenue it has cost cash-starved college athletics.

Jim Delany just didn’t tell his peers.

And they weren’t smart enough to figure it out themselves.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:43 PM   #1385
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The Pac 10/Texas ultimatum changes that. They're looking to go to 16 teams. Again, if there are going to be four 16 team "super conferences" the Big 10 will be one of them.

The move just puts more pressure on the Big 10 to move quickly, and stay ahead of the game.
you don't know this ... nobody on the outside knows

honestly, i doubt the Pac-10 thing happens anyway.

1. Texas controls the pac-10 thing ... if they don't go, the whole thing doesn't happen.

2. Texas doesn't want to lose control. Right now Texas basically controls an entire conference. They aren't going to give that up easily.

3. law makers are mobilizing in Texas right now to try and block Texas going to the Pac-10 unless they take Baylor too. This would mean that the Pac-10 would have to drop Colorado and add Baylor. This drops the value of the whole deal more than you would think. Because it adds another team to split profits with without adding ANY t.v. market. The Pac-10 is already taking a hit on the t.v. market per school by taking Texas and Texas A&M.

in the end i think Texas bails and the whole Pac-10/big 12 south merger fails.


imo MU/Neb decide to go to the Big 10 ... they stay 1 more year in the Big 12. After that the Big 12 adds another couple of schools and moves on from there.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:43 PM   #1386
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That is a visual I really didn't need. I take it there is some resentment among non-Texas B12 schools that the commish doesn't represent all their interests equally?
You have no idea.

Mizzou's just lucky enough to have a viable escape plan.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:45 PM   #1387
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you don't know this ... nobody knows this.

honestly, i doubt the Pac-10 thing happens anyway.

1. Texas controls the pac-10 thing ... if they don't go, the whole thing doesn't happen.

2. Texas doesn't want to lose control. Right now Texas basically controls an entire conference. They aren't going to give that up easily.

3. law makers are mobilizing in Texas right now to try and block Texas going to the Pac-10 unless they take Baylor too. This would mean that the Pac-10 would have to drop Colorado and add Baylor. This drops the value of the whole deal more than you would think. Because it adds another team to split profits with without adding ANY t.v. market. The Pac-10 is already taking a hit on the t.v. market per school by taking Texas and Texas A&M.

in the end i think Texas bails and the whole Pac-10/big 12 south merger fails.


imo MU/Neb decide to go to the Big 10 ... they stay 1 more year in the Big 12. After that the Big 12 adds another couple of schools and moves on from there.
Doesn't matter if it does or doesn't... It's gonna spur the Big Ten to action.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:50 PM   #1388
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Doesn't matter if it does or doesn't... It's gonna spur the Big Ten to action.
you've been listening to your crazy ass mu brethren too much again.

1. it does matter ... rumors aren't going to be enough to make a conference do something drastic it will have to be a concrete done deal before it does anything.

2. Big 10 started this ... Pac-10 is reacting, not the other way around.

could the Big 10 go to 16 schools ... of course, in fact that is probably the most likely scenario. But Notre Dame could change that .... a lot.
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you've been listening to your crazy ass mu brethren too much again.

1. it does matter ... rumors aren't going to be enough to make a conference do something drastic it will have to be a concrete done deal before it does anything.

2. Big 10 started this ... Pac-10 is reacting, not the other way around.

could the Big 10 go to 16 schools ... of course, in fact that is probably the most likely scenario. But Notre Dame could change that .... a lot.
I hate to say it but,

Notre Dame > Nebraska + Missouri + Rutgers + Syracuse

It's the only school that has the national appeal combined with the academic excellence that aligns with schools like Michigan and the rest of the Big 10 types
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:55 PM   #1390
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you've been listening to your crazy ass mu brethren too much again.

1. it does matter ... rumors aren't going to be enough to make a conference do something drastic it will have to be a concrete done deal before it does anything.

2. Big 10 started this ... Pac-10 is reacting, not the other way around.

could the Big 10 go to 16 schools ... of course, in fact that is probably the most likely scenario. But Notre Dame could change that .... a lot.
Why would they add ND, and call it a day... when other conferences are already making noise about going to 16?

Yes, the Big 10 started it... but now it's just a scramble to see what those 4 conferences are going to be... and what schools are included.

I can't imagine the Big Ten only adding ND. Big changes are coming... and they'll want to be at the front of it.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:00 PM   #1392
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I hate Notre Dame.
another thing we can agree on

let's review

1. Chiefs are "the" Team
2. boobies are great
3. Notre Dame is a giant piece of rotten goat ass


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Old 06-06-2010, 09:01 PM   #1393
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I hate to say it but,

Notre Dame > Nebraska + Missouri + Rutgers + Syracuse

It's the only school that has the national appeal combined with the academic excellence that aligns with schools like Michigan and the rest of the Big 10 types
Notre Dame has lost A LOT of it's luster as a football program, but with them having so many graduates around the nation they do pack the punch.. right now they are no better than the University of Buffalo in football though.
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another thing we can agree on

let's review

1. Chiefs are "the" Team
2. boobie are great
3. Notre Dame is a giant piece of rotten goat ass


Always looking at the positive.
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