The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[Agent V]

And this.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

http://thepatriotact/2009/01/patriot...aniels-finding

January 11, 2009

Patriots in demand: Pioli and McDaniels finding opportunities

Scott Pioli will probably be announced as the Kansas City Chiefs new general manager next week. While Josh McDaniels may be interviewing for the head coaching job with the Denver Broncos and with Pioli in KC maybe the next head coach of the Chiefs.

Both Pioli and McDaniels have been sought after for positions with other NFL teams in the past. What makes this interesting is the recent success of going to the AFC Championship in 2006, Super Bowl in 2007 and now having finished 11-5 and missing the playoffs for 2008 for the Patriots.

The decision for McDaniels may be a 'no-brainer' as it was for Eric Mangini - go and get the big bucks with what knowledge you have or wait until either this horse (Belichick) has had its run and step into his shoes or there is a teams with a great front office organization that needs a coach. That is definitely not Oakland or Detroit. KC with Pioli in place becomes one of the top ten football organizations and McDaniels if offered the job would be a fool not to accept it knowing the capabilities of Pioli.

The Patriots have not been rebuilding, but constantly tweeking. Belichick and Pioli have worked wonders since coming to Foxboro and who is to say the magic is gone?

It may just be Pioli letting us know the writing is on the wall. After a decade of hits with the Patriots and a chance for a few more titles with a healthy Tom Brady, when Pioli goes to Kansas City is that a sign that Brady may not be on track to come back as expected?

Who knows. But I do know Pioli helped select Matt Cassel, Matt Gutierrez and Kevin O'Connell and the Patriots success in 2008 had nothing to do with Tom Brady and more to do with an otherwise healthy offense mainly put together by Pioli.

Still, Pioli has much more work to do with the Patriots. The past few years there has been little improvement on the defensive side of the ball. The 2008 draft for bringing in youth on the defensive side of the ball was a change from previous years and the number of undrafted defensive free agents that remained with the team was also quite high.

Was this a change brought on by Pioli or Belichick?

Either way it worked. Another season of defensive injuries (yes Rosey Colvin and Junior Seau did return), but the rookies performed fairly well and we should expect them to continue to improve over the next few years.

I would hope that Pioli stays, sure there is always the unknown challenge out there and prospect to make more money, but New England has enough challenges and opportunities to keep Pioli around a bit longer.

When Belichick is gone from football, Pioli will still be in the NFL.

So patience may be a virtue here, so hanging on to Pioli is a priority for the Pats.

me want

[Fritz88]

some serious inside info

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Pioli, KC starting to bond

By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff | January 11, 2009

Discussions between the Kansas City Chiefs and Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli have intensified, according to an NFL source. Although negotiations had not begun as of early last night, word out of Kansas City was that the possibility of a marriage was picking up momentum.

Even before he interviewed last Monday, Pioli was presumed to be the Chiefs' top choice to run their football operation. That hasn't changed since Kansas City chairman Clark Hunt conducted a thorough, close-to-the-vest search that has included multiple candidates.

Hunt, interim president Denny Thum, and Pioli have increased their dialogue and think they could form a strong partnership, which is crucial, because regardless of whom the Chiefs hire, that person will have to work closely with Thum.

As part of the search for a general manager, Hunt has stated that he plans to split the job, with Thum handling business matters and the new hire focusing mostly on the football side. Although it has been suggested that Pioli, 43, might be seeking total control and thus wouldn't be comfortable with such an arrangement, the increased intensity of talks indicate that might not be the case.

Hunt has decided to split the job after former general manager Carl Peterson, who was with the club for 20 years, held both titles. In dividing the job, Hunt has said he wants a general manager who would be a "fresh set of eyes" and "shrewd evaluator of talent."

Pioli, a two-time Sporting News Executive of the Year Award winner, would qualify.

While Pioli and the Chiefs moved closer, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels has emerged as a top candidate to become the Denver Broncos head coach, according to Adam Schefter of the NFL Network.

McDaniels had a second interview with the Broncos last Thursday.

but, but... but WPI told me that he had already signed and would be named the GM by last thursday, friday at the latest. How can negotiations not have begun until saturday then?



That aside, it is interesting to hear that negotiations had not actually begun until last night. All the other snippets of 'news' have said how he has signed, will sign, or will never sign with the Chiefs. This makes me think that this article has a little bit more realistic take on the matter since it seems more apparent that he has not actually signed yet, seeing as that would be damn near impossible to keep secret this day and age.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

http://thepatriotact/2009/01/patriot...aniels-finding

January 11, 2009

Patriots in demand: Pioli and McDaniels finding opportunities

Your fist link doesn't work, and the link in the title goes to a slightly different article from January 2nd...

The Patriot Act

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January 2, 2009
Patriots in demand: Pioli and McDaniels finding opportunities


Although the recent news about vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli interviewing for the Cleveland Browns and the interest from the Browns to also interview offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is not new, other teams have also shown interest.

Pioli has drawn interest from the Kansas City Chiefs to become their next gerneral manger and is scheduled to interview with them soon. While McDaniels may be interviewing for the head coaching job with the Denver Broncos.

Both Pioli and McDaniels have been sought after for positions with other NFL teams in the past. What makes this interesting is the recent success of going to the AFC Championship in 2006, Super Bowl in 2007 and now having finished 11-5 and missing the playoffs for 2008.

The decision for McDaniels may be a 'no brainer' as it was for Eric Mangini - go and get the big bucks with what knowledge you have or wait until either this horse (Belichick) has had its run and step into his shoes or there is a teams with a great front office organization that needs a coach. That is definitely not Oakland or Detriot and McDaniels is not (at least I think at this point) able to go in and completely rebuild a team with a brand new GM in an organization such as Denver or the Browns.

The Patriots have not been rebuilding, but constantly tweeking. Coach Belichick and Pioli have worked wonders since coming to Foxboro and who is to say the magic is gone?

It may just be Pioli letting us know the writing is on the wall. After a decade of hits with the Patriots and a chance for a few more titles with a healthy Tom Brady, if Pioli goes elsewhere is that a sign that Brady may not be on track to come back as expected?

Who knows. But I do know Pioli helped select Matt Cassel, Matt Gutierrez and Kevin O'Connell and the Patriots success in 2008 had nothing to do with Tom Brady and more to do with an otheriwse healthy offense.

Still, Pioli has much more work to do with the Patriots. The past few years there has been little improvement on the defensive side of the ball. The 2008 draft for bringing in youth on the defensive side of the ball was a change from previous years and the number of undrafted defensive free agents that remained with the team was also quite high. Was this a change brought on by Pioli or Belichick?

Either way it worked. Another season of defensive injuries (yes Rosy Colvin and Junior Seau did return), but the rookies performed fairly well and we should expect them to continue to improve over the next few years.

I would hope that Pioli stays, sure there is always the unknown challenge out there and prospect to make more money, but New England has enough challenges and opportunities to keep Pioli around a bit longer.

When Belichick is gone from football, Pioli will still be in the NFL. So patience may be a virtue here.

IN BILL WE TRUST!!

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Your fist link doesn't work, and the link in the title goes to a slightly different article from January 2nd...

It's fake?

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

http://thepatriotact/2009/01/patriot...aniels-finding

January 11, 2009

Patriots in demand: Pioli and McDaniels finding opportunities

Scott Pioli will probably be announced as the Kansas City Chiefs new general manager next week. While Josh McDaniels may be interviewing for the head coaching job with the Denver Broncos and with Pioli in KC maybe the next head coach of the Chiefs.

Both Pioli and McDaniels have been sought after for positions with other NFL teams in the past. What makes this interesting is the recent success of going to the AFC Championship in 2006, Super Bowl in 2007 and now having finished 11-5 and missing the playoffs for 2008 for the Patriots.

The decision for McDaniels may be a 'no-brainer' as it was for Eric Mangini - go and get the big bucks with what knowledge you have or wait until either this horse (Belichick) has had its run and step into his shoes or there is a teams with a great front office organization that needs a coach. That is definitely not Oakland or Detroit. KC with Pioli in place becomes one of the top ten football organizations and McDaniels if offered the job would be a fool not to accept it knowing the capabilities of Pioli.

The Patriots have not been rebuilding, but constantly tweeking. Belichick and Pioli have worked wonders since coming to Foxboro and who is to say the magic is gone?

It may just be Pioli letting us know the writing is on the wall. After a decade of hits with the Patriots and a chance for a few more titles with a healthy Tom Brady, when Pioli goes to Kansas City is that a sign that Brady may not be on track to come back as expected?

Who knows. But I do know Pioli helped select Matt Cassel, Matt Gutierrez and Kevin O'Connell and the Patriots success in 2008 had nothing to do with Tom Brady and more to do with an otherwise healthy offense mainly put together by Pioli.

Still, Pioli has much more work to do with the Patriots. The past few years there has been little improvement on the defensive side of the ball. The 2008 draft for bringing in youth on the defensive side of the ball was a change from previous years and the number of undrafted defensive free agents that remained with the team was also quite high.

Was this a change brought on by Pioli or Belichick?

Either way it worked. Another season of defensive injuries (yes Rosey Colvin and Junior Seau did return), but the rookies performed fairly well and we should expect them to continue to improve over the next few years.

I would hope that Pioli stays, sure there is always the unknown challenge out there and prospect to make more money, but New England has enough challenges and opportunities to keep Pioli around a bit longer.

When Belichick is gone from football, Pioli will still be in the NFL.

So patience may be a virtue here, so hanging on to Pioli is a priority for the Pats.

A blogger emailed me this & said that he knows the Patriot Act blogger & that this is his updated blog with a few changes. He states it's a legitimate blog. If you want me to take it down I will.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

A blogger emailed me this & said that he knows the Patriot Act blogger & that this is his updated blog with a few changes. He states it's a legitimate blog. If you want me to take it down I will.

I don't care, I just thought it was odd.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I don't care, I just thought it was odd.

It is...I didn't check the link or anything. I does look suspicious though.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Has somebody said it yet? If not:

RE_POST!!!!

WTF? I got a neg-rep for this?! You know who you are i********l. I'm not into revenge repping, but I'm really curious why this deserves a neg-rep.

[blueballs]

It's the PPL stiking again

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by blueballs

It's the PPL stiking again

PPL?

[blueballs]

Pie Pirating Loosers

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Frankie

PPL?

You are not authorized to know.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by blueballs

It's the PPL stiking again

For the longest time, I had no f'n idea what KCJ meant by that term.

(but never cared enough to ask)