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Old 11-04-2008, 06:33 AM  
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Thigpen over past 4 games: 92.4 QB rating

Season OutlookPassingRushingSackedFumbles
GQBRatCompAttPctYdsY/GY/ATDIntRushYdsY/GAvgTDSackYdsLFumFumL
Last 4 Games492.4498259.8557139.36.830177919.84.6175100
Week 5 (@CAR)159.251050.03737.03.70041616.04.0011500
Week 7 (TEN)168.851145.57676.06.90032121.07.011600
Week 8 (@NYJ)1110.9253669.4280280.07.82042020.05.0043000
Week 9 (TAM)189.4142556.0164164.06.61062222.03.701000
2008 Year to Date667.67715151.0836139.35.5541910317.25.41129120


Stats don't tell the whole story of course, but I think most of us can agree this trends in the right direction.
The reason for the upwards spike? Here's my take:

1. Gailey given the freedom to adapt the system to the players rather than the reverse. The spread/shotgun suits Thiggy to a "T". (Memo to Herm: scrap that dismal Tampa 2 on _efense and let Cunningham do the same as Gailey)

2. Mark Bradley is emerging a very viable #2 WR. This changes everything as teams have to account for more than just Bowe and Gonzalez. Me like !

3. Thigpen himself. He reminds me of a slightly more gifted version of Rich Gannon. He scrambles, he rolls out, he runs for first downs, he changes the play at the LOS when needed (Bradley's 56 yd bomb). In the last 4 games, Thiggy has not thrown a pick. (One might add he has a rushing TD and a receiving TD in the last 4 games as well)...

The O Line has stepped up as well. They seem to like the spread and that may be antiHerm, but "you play to win the game", right coach?

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Old 11-04-2008, 12:58 PM   #31
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While that is true, it still doesn't give the O-line any passes at all, considering that pass blocking still needs improvement. There were several times where Thigpen had to bail out and move away from the pressure when the O-line protection degenerated.
Coach is right. There have been plenty of times where Huard (120 or more) would have curled up and taken a sack. It probably would have only happened to Croyle once, cause he would have gotten broken, but Thigpen escapes an eroding pocket at least long enough to throw it away.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:09 PM   #32
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Thigpen doesn't do as well in the second half after the defense has figured him and the scheme out
this could be a sign of things to come or just inexerpience
if he improves in the second half of games that should be a sign to watch for -me thinks
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:09 PM   #33
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Coach is right. There have been plenty of times where Huard (120 or more) would have curled up and taken a sack. It probably would have only happened to Croyle once, cause he would have gotten broken, but Thigpen escapes an eroding pocket at least long enough to throw it away.
And makes the right decision to throw it away....
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:14 PM   #34
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I was going to pick him up as a fantasy backup but I have had bad experience this year:

Romo, Orton, Kitna, and Schaub have all been quarterbacks of mine at one point or another...so yea, as a Chiefs fan searching for something to believe in I passed on Thigpen.

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Old 11-04-2008, 03:02 PM   #35
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:07 PM   #36
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:12 PM   #38
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:46 PM   #40
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Oh yeah, and I do agree with KCJohnny. (hard to say sometimes).

Especially about Bradley, Chan Gailey, and Thigpen. Hmm.. Guess I especially agree with ya!
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:04 PM   #42
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That's why I have said that I can't pin the defensive woes on Gunther. This Defense we're running is no Gunther Defense I've ever seen. I cannot stand this Soft zone crap. It does not work for us at all. Remember a couple years back when our defense was improving, and we would stack the line with damn near everyone, and at the snap, players would either blitz, or drop back, or everyone would come, or everyone would drop back, and no one knew where the hell anything was coming from? That was Gunther's D, and it was starting to work before we went to this crap.
Amen! Herm came here preaching Tampa 2 and force fed it to Cunningham. While the '07 D was commendable for its improvements over previous Chiefs Ds, the wheels have clearly come off with the current talent pool. We are the worst _efense in the NFL (or dang near it).

Herm needs to give Gun the same latitude he appears to be giving Chan.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:14 PM   #43
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:15 PM   #44
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Amen! Herm came here preaching Tampa 2 and force fed it to Cunningham. While the '07 D was commendable for its improvements over previous Chiefs Ds, the wheels have clearly come off with the current talent pool. We are the worst _efense in the NFL (or dang near it).

Herm needs to give Gun the same latitude he appears to be giving Chan.
You are truly clueless, KCJohnny. Gunther studied under the legendary Bud Carson, who practically INVENTED the Cover 2. He has said NUMEROUS times since Herm arrived in KC that he was fine running it.

Furthermore, we don't even RUN the Cover 2 as our primary defense this year. We've done a TON of blitzing with man coverage.

Basically you don't know what you're talking about. But don't let that stop you from defending your care package hero, who has failed HORRIBLY since Carl hired him in 2004. HORRIBLY. ABSOLUTE FAILURE. FROM GUNTHER ****ING CUNNINGHAM. A LOSER. A GOD. DAMNED. LOSER.

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Call me when he doesn't shove a thumb up his ass in the second half.
If look at past two games the teams KC played have been playing flat. If it was either making stupid mistakes, or just not executing like they usually do. San Diego should be interesting because they'll come out with guns blazing.
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