Huggins latest recruit and Doyel's take on the KSU mens bball coaching position.... - Page 2

arrowheadnation · 10:31 PM

Figured I might as well start a little fire on a boring night. Huggins' latest recruit, Tyree Evans, has been accused of statutory rape (he was charged along with a group of guys...a gang rape if you will) and battery of a child. Yes, I know, innocent until proven guilty, and he's probably going to get out of it, but the media and public opinion will still always label him as an "alleged rapist" (it's not right, but that's how it always pans out). That's the first story. The second story was CBS Sportsline columnist Gregg Doyel's list of the 10 worst men's coaching jobs in the nation where he refers to Manhattan, KS as "a suburb of Hades." I'm not gonna lie, Doyel has something against Manhattan and Huggins, and KSU fans hate it that he spews his sentiments in his columns every now and then. I guess you could call him the polar opposite of Kevin Keitzman, who spews his anti-KU sentiments on a daily basis over the radio waves.

Anywho, just wanting to hear some opinions (heh, I came to the right place for that).
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http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/spor...s/14605126.htm

KSU will take player if he's cleared
Tyree Evans, one of the top scorers in Virginia high school history, is facing a rape charge in Massachusetts.
BY JEFFREY MARTIN
The Wichita Eagle
As a senior at George Wythe High in Richmond, Va., Tyree Evans scored 884 points, a season total exceeded in the state by only Allen Iverson and Moses Malone.

He scorched Wythe's rival, L.C. Bird, for 51 points. He ripped off 34 second-half points in a state tournament semifinal loss, prompting several college coaches in attendance to shake their heads.

If all goes as Evans plans and he ends up playing for Bob Huggins at Kansas State next season, imagine the reaction then.

Evans, a 6-foot-3 guard, was indicted in September 2005 on charges of statutory rape and indecent assault and battery on a child stemming from an October 2004 incident while he was a postgraduate student at the Winchendon (Mass.) School.

Evans was one of five individuals originally charged in connection to the rape of a female classmate, according to the Worcester Telegram & Gazette.

He pleaded not guilty to the charges in March. On May 8, his lawyer filed a motion in Worcester Superior Court to dismiss the case. According to the office of Worcester District Attorney John J. Conte, Evans' next court appearance is scheduled for May 30. No trial date has been set.

Evans is confident the case will be thrown out.

If so, he says he'll join Huggins in Manhattan.

Evans originally planned on playing for Huggins at Cincinnati. But his grades were insufficient after graduating from Wythe in 2004, and he enrolled at Winchendon. Cincinnati wouldn't admit him in 2005 while charges were pending.

In the past year, while neither was involved in organized basketball, Evans said Huggins remained in contact.

"He's like a second dad to me," Evans said Monday. "He's been loyal to me, and I've been loyal to him. His word is his bond.... I'm interested. I'll be there in the fall."

The charges, if he's innocent, wouldn't be an issue for K-State, said Jim Epps, senior associate athletic director.

"Whatever he was charged with, if he was found innocent, I don't think we'd say, 'He was charged with a crime but found not guilty, so we're not going to recruit him,' " Epps said. "From our perspective, if he's exonerated, our message to Coach Huggins is to go ahead and recruit the kid."

But there is the issue of perception, whether this will be interpreted as another controversial move by a controversial coach.

As in, there Huggins goes again.

"If we were afraid of public criticism, we wouldn't have hired Bob Huggins," K-State athletic director Tim Weiser said. "I don't think we'd back away from giving a young man or woman a chance if we knew whatever they were involved with before wouldn't be an issue under our care at K-State."

Frank McMillan, Evans' former coach at Wythe, thinks Evans is as good as former Duke star J.J. Redick, who played his high school ball nearby.

"He's probably the best I've ever coached," McMillan said. "With the proper coaching, he'll be as good as anyone."

Mike Byrnes, his coach at Winchendon, believes Evans will make a lot of money in the pros.

"He does not back down from a soul," Byrnes said. "If he goes to K-State, he'll be on the Big 12 All-Rookie Team."

Evans? He compares himself to Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon -- but with a slight variation.

"I jump a little higher, and I'm definitely a lot faster," Evans said. "I run a 4.4 40."

Evans flirted with the notion of playing football in college. As a junior, he finished with more than 1,000 receiving yards and 14 touchdowns. Penn State was interested, and according to McMillan, Florida and Florida State inquired.

He is still intrigued by the possibility, insisting "there ain't no corner around that can check me one-on-one.

"But I just want to see how my freshman year goes."

He seems certain he'll be in Manhattan in September.

"It's going to be dismissed -- that's all I can tell you about that," Evans said. "And when this stuff is over, I'm going to be at K-State.

"I'm going to be playing for Coach Huggins at K-State."
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http://www.sportsline.com/collegebas.../story/9442923

10. Kansas State: If everything breaks right, Bob Huggins is going to win so big at Kansas State you'll wonder how the Wildcats ever got onto this list. But if everything breaks wrong -- if O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker go to Southern California or just turn pro; and if Michael Beasley and Herb Pope decide not to be traded to Kansas State like pieces of horse flesh -- Huggins will find out just how bad this job really is. When the NCAA ruled that schools can't use private planes to fly in recruits, it was a shattering blow in Manhattan, Kan., a suburb of Hades.

**Saulbadguy** · 05-18-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

What debate? The we recruit gang rapist debate?

Ricky Clemons. Really.

Mizzou=irrelevant.

nychief · 05-18-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kcnut

Well if the guy not guilty then fine bring him in. Plus with ku and wsu getting good players the state of kansas should back as the mecca of basketball soon.

one day you may have 3 out of the final 4 coming from the state of kansas.

nychief · 05-18-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Ricky Clemons. Really.

Mizzou=irrelevant.

Oh saul, you cut the quick. Sorta like a gang rapist.

**Saulbadguy** · 05-18-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aarowheadnation

I wouldn't exactly consider it a "suburb of Hades." I lived there for the past 4 years, and I have no complaints. I do however think that recruits like OJ Mayo, who supposedly wish to constantly be in the public eye, will not like it there because it's so hidden from the rest of the world.

It's a "BCS" conference with one of the more controversial coaches in America. He'd get public exposure.

However, as for Mayo, i'd say he's 50/50. I'll call Beasely and Walker "locks" at this point.

**Skip Towne** · 05-18-2006, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief

At least the kids get a top notch education.

Hahahahaha. Yeah, Huggins will see to that. He graduated what.....15 kids in 14 years at Cincy? That's one of many reasons they shitcanned him and why he sat for 7 months with NO offers.

keg in kc · 05-18-2006, 10:36 PM

Neutral voice here. I don't care about KSU, KU, MU or any of the big XII.

If the kid's innocent, I don't see a reason not to take him. If the kid has a checkered (academic and/or social) past, I also don't see a reason not to take him. Set aside the rivalries, and the money, and remember that part of college athletics is supposed to be about turning kids into adults. When I think about that, I start to think that sometimes we overanalyze everything. Maybe, sometimes, it's okay that risks be taken. Because maybe the right support or prodding can put a kid on the right path.

Is that what Huggins is after? I don't know. I doubt it. I'm not naive; I don't think there's a major division 1 program in the country that has anything but winning as priority number uno. But I don't care. Sometimes good comes out of it anyway.

Time'll tell.

Archie Bunker · 05-19-2006, 10:16 AM

Hey Saul or other K-State recruiting experts what are you hearing about Hannah? Lots of rumors flying around.

CoMoChief · 05-19-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

tyree evans= awesome. Will be at K-state once he gets cleared of these BS charges.

Gregg Doyel+= has a bad haircut, stupid

KU fans = CONCERNED!

I'm not concerned one damn bit actually, why???

Tyree Evans < Sherron Collins

Jason Bennett < Darrell Arthur

Pitt Gorilla · 05-19-2006, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Hey Saul or other K-State recruiting experts what are you hearing about Hannah? Lots of rumors flying around.

Hannah very well could be going to MU.

Archie Bunker · 05-19-2006, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Hannah very well could be going to MU.

That would be sweet.

KChiefs1 · 05-19-2006, 11:01 AM

Stefhon Hannah to Mizzou?????

http://www.tigerboard.com

CoMoChief · 05-19-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

That would be sweet.

They'll still finish behind almost everyone in the Big12. I'm actually kinda excited to see what Baylor can do this season.

**Skip Towne** · 05-19-2006, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Stefhon Hannah to Mizzou?????

http://www.tigerboard.com

Only Nick Athan knows for sure.

FloridaMan88 · 05-19-2006, 11:21 AM

Playing high school basketball in the state of Florida means that you aren't a good enough athlete to play football. Just a word of warning to K-State fans about those recruits from Florida.

htismaqe · 05-19-2006, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

They'll still finish behind almost everyone in the Big12. I'm actually kinda excited to see what Baylor can do this season.

They should finish ahead of Iowa State.

05-18-2006, 10:20 PM
arrowheadnation MONTANA #19 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $3727357	Huggins latest recruit and Doyel's take on the KSU mens bball coaching position.... Figured I might as well start a little fire on a boring night. Huggins' latest recruit, Tyree Evans, has been accused of statutory rape (he was charged along with a group of guys...a gang rape if you will) and battery of a child. Yes, I know, innocent until proven guilty, and he's probably going to get out of it, but the media and public opinion will still always label him as an "alleged rapist" (it's not right, but that's how it always pans out). That's the first story. The second story was CBS Sportsline columnist Gregg Doyel's list of the 10 worst men's coaching jobs in the nation where he refers to Manhattan, KS as "a suburb of Hades." I'm not gonna lie, Doyel has something against Manhattan and Huggins, and KSU fans hate it that he spews his sentiments in his columns every now and then. I guess you could call him the polar opposite of Kevin Keitzman, who spews his anti-KU sentiments on a daily basis over the radio waves. Anywho, just wanting to hear some opinions (heh, I came to the right place for that). __________________________________________________________________________ http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/spor...s/14605126.htm KSU will take player if he's cleared Tyree Evans, one of the top scorers in Virginia high school history, is facing a rape charge in Massachusetts. BY JEFFREY MARTIN The Wichita Eagle As a senior at George Wythe High in Richmond, Va., Tyree Evans scored 884 points, a season total exceeded in the state by only Allen Iverson and Moses Malone. He scorched Wythe's rival, L.C. Bird, for 51 points. He ripped off 34 second-half points in a state tournament semifinal loss, prompting several college coaches in attendance to shake their heads. If all goes as Evans plans and he ends up playing for Bob Huggins at Kansas State next season, imagine the reaction then. Evans, a 6-foot-3 guard, was indicted in September 2005 on charges of statutory rape and indecent assault and battery on a child stemming from an October 2004 incident while he was a postgraduate student at the Winchendon (Mass.) School. Evans was one of five individuals originally charged in connection to the rape of a female classmate, according to the Worcester Telegram & Gazette. He pleaded not guilty to the charges in March. On May 8, his lawyer filed a motion in Worcester Superior Court to dismiss the case. According to the office of Worcester District Attorney John J. Conte, Evans' next court appearance is scheduled for May 30. No trial date has been set. Evans is confident the case will be thrown out. If so, he says he'll join Huggins in Manhattan. Evans originally planned on playing for Huggins at Cincinnati. But his grades were insufficient after graduating from Wythe in 2004, and he enrolled at Winchendon. Cincinnati wouldn't admit him in 2005 while charges were pending. In the past year, while neither was involved in organized basketball, Evans said Huggins remained in contact. "He's like a second dad to me," Evans said Monday. "He's been loyal to me, and I've been loyal to him. His word is his bond.... I'm interested. I'll be there in the fall." The charges, if he's innocent, wouldn't be an issue for K-State, said Jim Epps, senior associate athletic director. "Whatever he was charged with, if he was found innocent, I don't think we'd say, 'He was charged with a crime but found not guilty, so we're not going to recruit him,' " Epps said. "From our perspective, if he's exonerated, our message to Coach Huggins is to go ahead and recruit the kid." But there is the issue of perception, whether this will be interpreted as another controversial move by a controversial coach. As in, there Huggins goes again. "If we were afraid of public criticism, we wouldn't have hired Bob Huggins," K-State athletic director Tim Weiser said. "I don't think we'd back away from giving a young man or woman a chance if we knew whatever they were involved with before wouldn't be an issue under our care at K-State." Frank McMillan, Evans' former coach at Wythe, thinks Evans is as good as former Duke star J.J. Redick, who played his high school ball nearby. "He's probably the best I've ever coached," McMillan said. "With the proper coaching, he'll be as good as anyone." Mike Byrnes, his coach at Winchendon, believes Evans will make a lot of money in the pros. "He does not back down from a soul," Byrnes said. "If he goes to K-State, he'll be on the Big 12 All-Rookie Team." Evans? He compares himself to Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon -- but with a slight variation. "I jump a little higher, and I'm definitely a lot faster," Evans said. "I run a 4.4 40." Evans flirted with the notion of playing football in college. As a junior, he finished with more than 1,000 receiving yards and 14 touchdowns. Penn State was interested, and according to McMillan, Florida and Florida State inquired. He is still intrigued by the possibility, insisting "there ain't no corner around that can check me one-on-one. "But I just want to see how my freshman year goes." He seems certain he'll be in Manhattan in September. "It's going to be dismissed -- that's all I can tell you about that," Evans said. "And when this stuff is over, I'm going to be at K-State. "I'm going to be playing for Coach Huggins at K-State." _________________________________________________________________________________ http://www.sportsline.com/collegebas.../story/9442923 10. Kansas State: If everything breaks right, Bob Huggins is going to win so big at Kansas State you'll wonder how the Wildcats ever got onto this list. But if everything breaks wrong -- if O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker go to Southern California or just turn pro; and if Michael Beasley and Herb Pope decide not to be traded to Kansas State like pieces of horse flesh -- Huggins will find out just how bad this job really is. When the NCAA ruled that schools can't use private planes to fly in recruits, it was a shattering blow in Manhattan, Kan., a suburb of Hades. Last edited by arrowheadnation; 05-18-2006 at 10:31 PM..
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05-18-2006, 10:36 PM	#21
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Neutral voice here. I don't care about KSU, KU, MU or any of the big XII. If the kid's innocent, I don't see a reason not to take him. If the kid has a checkered (academic and/or social) past, I also don't see a reason not to take him. Set aside the rivalries, and the money, and remember that part of college athletics is supposed to be about turning kids into adults. When I think about that, I start to think that sometimes we overanalyze everything. Maybe, sometimes, it's okay that risks be taken. Because maybe the right support or prodding can put a kid on the right path. Is that what Huggins is after? I don't know. I doubt it. I'm not naive; I don't think there's a major division 1 program in the country that has anything but winning as priority number uno. But I don't care. Sometimes good comes out of it anyway. Time'll tell.
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05-19-2006, 10:16 AM	#22
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	Hey Saul or other K-State recruiting experts what are you hearing about Hannah? Lots of rumors flying around.
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05-19-2006, 11:01 AM	#26
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Stefhon Hannah to Mizzou????? http://www.tigerboard.com __________________
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05-19-2006, 11:21 AM	#29
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-497094	Playing high school basketball in the state of Florida means that you aren't a good enough athlete to play football. Just a word of warning to K-State fans about those recruits from Florida.
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