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Old 12-29-2005, 11:59 AM  
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Carl Peterson proposing playoff expansion...

Hahaha! What a laughing stock this guy is...


Chiefs president wants more playoff teams

By Skip Wood and Jarrett Bell, USA TODAY

Ten wins. In the NFL, to accomplish that means almost certain inclusion into the playoffs. Not this season. And heading into this weekend's final regular-season games, six of the league's 32 teams face the prospect of finishing 10-6 and not qualifying for the postseason. Not only that, but as many as three teams could wind up 10-6 and on the wrong side of the fence.

That's why Kansas City Chiefs president Carl Peterson, long a supporter of expanding the playoff field from 12 to 14 teams, is miffed — and not just because his team is among those possibly left idle despite double-digit wins.

"I'm going to propose ... an expansion of the number of playoff teams," Peterson said Wednesday. "I think it shorts the fans, the franchises and the cities to have teams with successful seasons but still not qualify for the playoffs."

Peterson, who failed in his bid for playoff expansion at last spring's owners meetings in Hawaii, believes his argument will be strengthened at this spring's meetings because several teams with nine or 10 wins are on the brink of elimination or are already out, such as San Diego (9-6).

Dallas (9-6), Pittsburgh (10-5), Tampa Bay (10-5) and Carolina (10-5) also face elimination.

Since the playoff field expanded to 12 teams in 1990, three teams have missed the postseason with 10 wins: the 1991 San Francisco 49ers and Philadelphia Eagles and the 2003 Miami Dolphins.

"It's a great playoff system," Peterson said, "but I don't like it when teams can win 10 games and not make the playoffs. I don't want us to become the NBA, with 50% of the teams in the playoffs, but we should do something. This league is just so competitive."

Of the NBA's 30 teams, 16 make the playoffs.

An NFL spokesman said the league has no comment as such decisions are entirely up to the owners.

"We'd certainly be interested in televising the games if the NFL expanded," says Josh Krulewitz, spokesman for ABC/ESPN. ABC is televising Super Bowl XL from Detroit.

NBC declined to comment.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...xpansion_x.htm
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Old 12-29-2005, 09:47 PM   #61
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Only 1 team is strong enough to win the SB each year. So, by your logic, there should only be 1 team from each conference and they should just bypass the playoffs and just go straight to the championship game.

We don't know which team is that 1 team until the games are played. So it makes sense to have 5 or at most 6 qualify from each conference. The Chiefs aren't going to magically obtain the ability to win on the road now that it's the playoffs. A very good team, like the 2000 Ravens or the 1997 Cheating Broncos isn't going to miss the dance just because they happened to be in a strong division. The system is near perfect now.
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Old 12-29-2005, 09:48 PM   #62
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Yep, I'm sure. I don't post BS. Here are all the Wildcard teams that have ever made the Superbowl (not sure why the '69 Chiefs were not considered a WC, they didn't win the division). No team rom the 6th seed has ever made a SB appearance and none of teams that made it had a record worse than 11-5. A 10-6 seventh seed is not going to win 3 road games against playoff teams to win a trip to the SB. And Carl and Lamar know it better than I do.

2000 – Baltimore Ravens* 5 seed 12-4
1999 – Tennessee Titans 4 seed 13-3
1997 – Denver Broncos* 4 seed 12-4
1992 – Buffalo Bills 4 seed 11-5
1985 – New England Patriots 5 seed 11-5
1980 – Oakland Raiders* 4 seed 11-5
1975 – Dallas Cowboys 4 seed 12-4

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The AFL was divided into two conferences, Eastern and Western, and both Conferences sent the winner and 2nd place finisher to the playoffs.

Oakland and the Jets were the conference winners, and the Chiefs and the Houston Oilers were 2nd place finishers.

They weren't considered Wild Cards.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:55 PM   #63
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It sucks that the Chiefs could miss the playoffs, but I dont feel that Carl's proposal will hold up.

Its always been about the division. If you want in the playoffs, WIN YOUR DIVISION.

The Chiefs certainly had the opportunities to do that this year, they simply pissed them away. You dont reward performances like that by taking the team by the hand and saying "Its OK, we will just change the rules and allow more teams in the playoffs next time, so you can piss away games and still get in."


The Chiefs easily should have 3 more wins than they have right now. Philly, Buffalo, and San Diego immediately come to mind. But, they blew it.

Now, they DESERVE to sweat it out with the mathematical situation and if they miss out, tough. They had their chances and blew them.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:08 AM   #64
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Oh, congratulations on your successful season by the way. I would have never guessed it by reading this board, but who can argue with the King?
You know it's the condesending attitude of the typical donkey fans that endear me to them so much.


One and done TJ. It's the Bronco way.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:33 AM   #65
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Peterson's an idiot; albeit a rich idiot, but an idiot just the same.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:40 AM   #66
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Heh, the NFL Live are having a discussion about Carl Peterson's proposal about expanding the playoffs.

Basically, just said "Try to tackle Tiki Barber."
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:48 AM   #67
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You know it's the condesending attitude of the typical donkey fans that endear me to them so much.


One and done TJ. It's the Bronco way.


Man, when Carl Peterson starts crying about expanding the playoff system to allow the Chiefs a shot at them, the jokes practically write themselves. How can I possibly resist?
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Man, when Carl Peterson starts crying about expanding the playoff system to allow the Chiefs a shot at them, the jokes practically write themselves. How can I possibly resist?
It's quite pathetic. We badly need a franchise makeover.

I'm hoping Clark Hunt can provide it.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:53 AM   #69
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I'm hoping Clark Hunt can provide it.
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Heh, the NFL Live are having a discussion about Carl Peterson's proposal about expanding the playoffs.

Basically, just said "Try to tackle Tiki Barber."
Absolutely. And I'm not positive, but as I understand the tiebreaker rules, we wouldn't get in as the #7 seed even if the NFL had such a thing.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:32 AM   #71
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Absolutely. And I'm not positive, but as I understand the tiebreaker rules, we wouldn't get in as the #7 seed even if the NFL had such a thing.
Heh, and I think the Chargers would be in as the #7 seed if there ever was one.

But in all, Carl Peterson is a f**king joke. At least, in a way, that we could be thankful for is that we don't have Matt Millen. But yes, I know that it's not Carl Peterson making the tackles. It's not Carl Peterson that is throwing interceptions, or fumbling the football away.

However, I am holding Carl Peterson for putting the product on the field. What kind of a moron G.M. would give Eric Hicks a big fat contract? What kind of a moron G.M. would give Jerome Woods a big fat contract as well? Do I even need to bring up the 2003 season when Peterson inexplicably re-signed all of the same players that had just been trounced by the Colts in the play-offs, minus Dalton?

Jesus H. Christ. Carl Peterson thinks he can find an NFL-caliber defense down at the Dollar General.

I hope, whenever Clark Hunt takes over the team, that his first priority is to shitcan Carl Peterson for good.
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What I can't figure out is why there aren't dudes running around Arrowhead stadium with "Fire Carl" T-Shirts like in Detroit with Matt Millen. For Pete's sakes, you guys have only three post season wins in 35 years, you'd think there'd be more activism for change amongst the fans.

How'd you guys get Mediocre Marty out? Well, actually, I guess that was DT's doing (no offense, just calling it like I see it. When DT melted down on MNF, he might as well have been signing Marty's severance check). I guess Clark Hunt is your only hope. For my part, I'm hoping he sticks with the ole buffoon. Carl has been money in the bank for the Broncos.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:45 AM   #73
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What I can't figure out is why there aren't dudes running around Arrowhead stadium with "Fire Carl" T-Shirts like in Detroit with Matt Millen. For Pete's sakes, you guys have only three post season wins in 35 years, you'd think there'd be more activism for change amongst the fans.

How'd you guys get Mediocre Marty out? Well, actually, I guess that was DT's doing (no offense, just calling it like I see it. When DT melted down on MNF, he might as well have been signing Marty's severance check). I guess Clark Hunt is your only hope. For my part, I'm hoping he sticks with the ole buffoon. Carl has been money in the bank for the Broncos.
What can I say, 23 years of Jack Steadman deadened far too many brain cells. Especially in Lamar Hunt who actually allowed Steadman to go into the Ring of Fame.
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What I can't figure out is why there aren't dudes running around Arrowhead stadium with "Fire Carl" T-Shirts like in Detroit with Matt Millen. For Pete's sakes, you guys have only three post season wins in 35 years, you'd think there'd be more activism for change amongst the fans.
I dunno, I don't live in KC, so I wouldn't be able to answer that question.

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How'd you guys get Mediocre Marty out? Well, actually, I guess that was DT's doing (no offense, just calling it like I see it. When DT melted down on MNF, he might as well have been signing Marty's severance check). I guess Clark Hunt is your only hope. For my part, I'm hoping he sticks with the ole buffoon. Carl has been money in the bank for the Broncos.
Mediocre? Try again Taco John. Marty and Carl actually produced wins and playoff wins. Ever since Marty left, the Chiefs haven't won as much as they used to. Since that MNF meltdown, I'm not pointing it directly on DT. It was pretty much everyone responsible on that team.

Who's responsible for hiring the coaches after Marty left? Carl Peterson. Hired Gunther. Failed. Hired Vermeil. Failed. I'm not too confident on whoever the next head coach will be, becuase it most likely will turn out to be a failure as well.

As for Clark, from what I heard and seen, he's not a Carl Peterson supporter.
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Man, when Carl Peterson starts crying about expanding the playoff system to allow the Chiefs a shot at them, the jokes practically write themselves. How can I possibly resist?
Actually, Bob Dole seems to recall that Peterson proposed the idea last year on behalf of Lamar Hunt.
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