Hey meth heads watch out.............. - Page 2

Goapics1 · 07-05-2005, 12:36 PM

the feds are coming.

Meth is top drug problem for most counties

Survey shows it's heading east after taking root along West Coast

MSNBC
Updated: 11:46 a.m. ET July 5, 2005

The number one drug problem for many counties across the country is not cocaine, heroin or marijuana but methamphetamine, according to a survey released Tuesday.

A synthetic drug that's easily manufactured, meth has spread from the West Coast and is moving east, according to the survey by the National Association of Counties.

Of 500 law enforcement agencies surveyed in 45 states, 58 percent cited meth as their biggest drug problem, dwarfing cocaine (19 percent), marijuana (17 percent) and heroin (3 percent).

The highest meth percentages were along the West Coast and Upper Midwest. In the Northeast, on the other hand, only 4 percent of counties rated meth as their biggest drug problem. Forty-six percent cited heroin as the top problem, followed by cocaine at 21 percent.

A form of speed that is usually smoked, snorted or injected, meth quickly becomes addictive.

87 percent of agencies report increases in meth-related arrests starting three years ago. Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Washington and Wyoming reported 100 percent increases.70 percent say robberies or burglaries have increased because of meth use.62 percent report increases in domestic violence because of meth use.In a report with the survey results, the association described the spread as an "epidemic ... affecting urban, suburban and rural communities nationwide."

The federal government still considers marijuana the top drug problem in the nation, citing a 2003 survey estimating 15 million people who had smoked marijuana over the last month, compared with 600,000 meth users over the previous month.

The counties association, however, said that "county law enforcement officials have a different perspective on this ranking. With the growth of this drug from the rural areas of the western and northwestern regions of this country and its slow but continuing spread to the east, local law enforcement officials see it as their number one drug problem."

Small and large labs
Meth is imported from Mexico, Canada and Asia, the association said, as well as produced in small or large labs across the United States using household ingredients like cold medicines and fertilizer.

"The small lab methamphetamine production and market was originally dominated by motorcycle gangs and local producers chiefly in California and the Pacific northwest," the association said, "but has grown now to include major producers in Mexico who are responsible for the organized trafficking of meth and by the thousands of small producers in nearly all areas of the country."

"Meth can be manufactured in barns, garages, back rooms of businesses, apartments, hotel and motel rooms, storage facilities, vacant buildings and vehicles," the association said — and even a suitcase.

The full report is online at www.naco.org.

Calcountry · 07-05-2005, 01:11 PM

I serve the public, and have waited on meth heads.

They ask a question about something, I take a breath to articulate the words in the form on answer, and they have already turned their head and are grabbing something different to BUY!!!!11 NOW!!!, then ask anohter question about a 3rd issue, mid sentence I change to the new answer and WHOOOp, they grab something totally unrelated to the other things and questions, SLAM it on the counter11!! So I just start typing at the cash register as quick as I can and blurt out the total, the cash comes flying I make change, and WHOOP sometimes they won't even take it if it is coin, they are GONE!!11 out the dore before I can say thanks.

Eleazar · 07-05-2005, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Kings

Meth is definatley the drug that people are most proud of.

Everytime you bring it up somebody pipes in with "my town was just named the meth capitol of the United States", like their son just won the MVP of the Little League World Series.

I should start a thread of all the towns/cities that have been proudly proclaimed as the meth capital of the universe.

Independence (started it all with the Rolling Stones story back in the 90's)
Raymore
Belton
Kearny
Knob Knoster
Knob Town
Joliet
New Jersey
and about 500 other cities that I can't think of.

Kearney, that's funny. While I admit I have done it a couple of times too, I grew up there and the place wasn't big enough to be the meth capital of Clay County. Probably still isn't.

I've heard it said that it was also Columbia, Des Moines, West Des Moines, Omaha, Council Bluffs, Davenport, etc etc. I think it's just an 'urban cliche' to say that some place you think little of is 'the meth capital of the world'.

In reality the meth capital of the world is probably Mexico or Columbia. More has to be imported than is made up in old camper shells and sheds in any one particular place.

trndobrd · 07-05-2005, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefless

this is an issue that hits close to home...anyone out there ever successfully ousted such a monster?

Let me offer three suggestions.

1) Walk over at 4am when he is on one of his screaming tirades and ask him to please quiet down. Perhaps if he knew how much he was bother others, he would curb his disruptive behavior. If he refuses, or threatens you, pull the .357 Magnum revolver from your jacket, point the barrel in the direction of his chest and begin pulling the trigger.

2) Some morning about 10am, when he is sleeping it off, take a gallon of gas over and douse his garage. Light a cigarette, throw it on the gas. Walk away.

if he first two would cause you difficulty sleeping at night, maybe this will help..
3) Police are looking to establish probable cause to believe that his garage is being used for the manufacture of methamphetamines. This isn't just a "law", it's part of our rights as Americans to be free in our homes from government intrusion. However, you can help the police help convince a judge if you know what they are looking for....namely, a strong chemical odor, especially ether or ammonia. Empty sudafed containers, empty bottle, especially with hoses or holes. Any kind of coolers or containers used to store pressurized gas (ie empty propane bottles). If you see or smell those things, call the police immediately.

Goapics1 · 07-05-2005, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trndobrd

Let me offer three suggestions.

1) Walk over at 4am when he is on one of his screaming tirades and ask him to please quiet down. Perhaps if he knew how much he was bother others, he would curb his disruptive behavior. If he refuses, or threatens you, pull the .357 Magnum revolver from your jacket, point the barrel in the direction of his chest and begin pulling the trigger.

2) Some morning about 10am, when he is sleeping it off, take a gallon of gas over and douse his garage. Light a cigarette, throw it on the gas. Walk away.

hee hee

MichaelH · 07-05-2005, 01:52 PM

I'm from northeastern Pennsylvania, far from the west coast or even the mid west. I saw the crap in college 20 years ago. Later, working construction I met many burnouts that had been doing it for many years. I think it is a major problem, but not a new one.

**Skip Towne** · 07-05-2005, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

I serve the public, and have waited on meth heads.

They ask a question about something, I take a breath to articulate the words in the form on answer, and they have already turned their head and are grabbing something different to BUY!!!!11 NOW!!!, then ask anohter question about a 3rd issue, mid sentence I change to the new answer and WHOOOp, they grab something totally unrelated to the other things and questions, SLAM it on the counter11!! So I just start typing at the cash register as quick as I can and blurt out the total, the cash comes flying I make change, and WHOOP sometimes they won't even take it if it is coin, they are GONE!!11 out the dore before I can say thanks.

Maybe if you locked your dore they couldn't get in.

KC Kings · 07-05-2005, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rxrider

If you were around back in the 80's you would have KNOWN that SanDiego, CA was considered the METH CAPITAL of the US ... BAR NONE.

Some of the BEST Crystal Meth came out of SD and I can tell you it was LEAPS and BOUNDS above any of the stuff that was cooked locally in KS or MO.

Just an observation as I was introduced to some of the BEST from KS and MO and I can shamfully say I was a conesieur back then.

.

1980? No, the crystal meth scene wasn't that big at Lee's Summit kindergartens.

I had never even heard of the stuff until 97 or 98 when the Rolling Stones article came out. They said that some guy from Independence discovered a new way of making it while in prison, and it went from being not very pure to almost 100 pure he he shared the information with all of his friends.

The said that there was magnesium sulfate or some chemical on the heads of strike anywhere matches, and he would give meth heads free meth in exchange for scraping the stuff off of the tips of the matches. After one night there would be a pile of matches 3 feet tall. that was one of the many reasons why the drug didn't appeal to me.

**Iowanian** · 07-05-2005, 01:58 PM

I said it the other night........I'm a hater of the meth.

...this weekend, in small town Iowania, I saw a guy get tackled and was stabbed multiple times by 3 meth monkeys because he told one who was 2osomething to stop trying to eff his 14year old daughter.

Its eaten up a couple of my good friends.

Meth makers/distributers should be shot on site.

stumppy · 07-05-2005, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

I serve the public, and have waited on meth heads.

They ask a question about something, I take a breath to articulate the words in the form on answer, and they have already turned their head and are grabbing something different to BUY!!!!11 NOW!!!, then ask anohter question about a 3rd issue, mid sentence I change to the new answer and WHOOOp, they grab something totally unrelated to the other things and questions, SLAM it on the counter11!! So I just start typing at the cash register as quick as I can and blurt out the total, the cash comes flying I make change, and WHOOP sometimes they won't even take it if it is coin, they are GONE!!11 out the dore before I can say thanks.

What would a tweeker want with bunny turds ? Or are you selling sinus medicine, lithium batteries, lye, and anhydrous on the side ?

Chiefless · 07-05-2005, 02:02 PM

"1) Walk over at 4am when he is on one of his screaming tirades and ask him to please quiet down. Perhaps if he knew how much he was bother others, he would curb his disruptive behavior. If he refuses, or threatens you, pull the .357 Magnum revolver from your jacket, point the barrel in the direction of his chest and begin pulling the trigger.

2) Some morning about 10am, when he is sleeping it off, take a gallon of gas over and douse his garage. Light a cigarette, throw it on the gas. Walk away."

I have those fantasies daily...you have no idea. I've often wanted to ask detectives just how hard they would look for this dirtbag's killer. Now, mind you, I don't have that in me, but in my fantasies he is one dead mofo.

Eleazar · 07-05-2005, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefless

I have those fantasies daily...you have no idea. I've often wanted to ask detectives just how hard they would look for this dirtbag's killer. Now, mind you, I don't have that in me, but in my fantasies he is one dead mofo.

It's a shame that arson is a felony, isn't it.

Maybe you could accidentally carelessly discard lit cigarettes and flamable chemicals over there.

Chiefless · 07-05-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Maybe you could accidentally carelessly discard lit cigarettes and flamable chemicals over there

or accidently lob a gernade through his window.

Did I mention he was busted a few months ago, placed on probation, raided/arrested last week by the dept of corrections (after a phone-call from our next door neighbor) for breaking the terms of his probation, then released after he flipped on three of his dealers? Sweet, thanks Dept of corrections...nice to have him back.

Did I also mention he drived the same truck as me? So, now I gotta worry about mistaken by him in my truck. Crank rocks.

trndobrd · 07-05-2005, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefless

I have those fantasies daily...you have no idea. I've often wanted to ask detectives just how hard they would look for this dirtbag's killer. Now, mind you, I don't have that in me, but in my fantasies he is one dead mofo.

Then take a hard look at #3 then. Seriously. That's exactly the kind of things the police are looking for when they come out. If there is a strong chemical odor, they will be all about getting a warrant and cleaning out his little operation.

Eleazar · 07-05-2005, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefless

or accidently lob a gernade through his window.

Did I mention he was busted a few months ago, placed on probation, raided/arrested last week by the dept of corrections (after a phone-call from our next door neighbor) for breaking the terms of his probation, then released after he flipped on three of his dealers? Sweet, thanks Dept of corrections...nice to have him back.

Did I also mention he drived the same truck as me? So, now I gotta worry about mistaken by him in my truck. Crank rocks.

Whatever dude, leave him alone. He ain't hurting nobody.

**Iowanian** · 07-05-2005, 02:23 PM

I've said it before and I'll repeat it now....

The Cure for meth?
1 really really big Govt Produced and distributed "bad batch".

Chiefless...............I think you just said the sollution to your problem. Make it known, who flipped on the dealers, and they'll eventually find him with his hands and mouth duct taped floating in a lagoon.

*insert standard planet sollution

1 piture of Icy, Cold Lime or Orange antifreeze Koolaide left in front of the garage, complete with enough Dixie Cups for everyone inside.

07-05-2005, 12:36 PM
Goapics1 Ghetto Superstar Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Midwest Casino cash: $10004900	Hey meth heads watch out.............. the feds are coming. Meth is top drug problem for most counties Survey shows it's heading east after taking root along West Coast MSNBC Updated: 11:46 a.m. ET July 5, 2005 The number one drug problem for many counties across the country is not cocaine, heroin or marijuana but methamphetamine, according to a survey released Tuesday. A synthetic drug that's easily manufactured, meth has spread from the West Coast and is moving east, according to the survey by the National Association of Counties. Of 500 law enforcement agencies surveyed in 45 states, 58 percent cited meth as their biggest drug problem, dwarfing cocaine (19 percent), marijuana (17 percent) and heroin (3 percent). The highest meth percentages were along the West Coast and Upper Midwest. In the Northeast, on the other hand, only 4 percent of counties rated meth as their biggest drug problem. Forty-six percent cited heroin as the top problem, followed by cocaine at 21 percent. A form of speed that is usually smoked, snorted or injected, meth quickly becomes addictive. 87 percent of agencies report increases in meth-related arrests starting three years ago. Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Washington and Wyoming reported 100 percent increases.70 percent say robberies or burglaries have increased because of meth use.62 percent report increases in domestic violence because of meth use.In a report with the survey results, the association described the spread as an "epidemic ... affecting urban, suburban and rural communities nationwide." The federal government still considers marijuana the top drug problem in the nation, citing a 2003 survey estimating 15 million people who had smoked marijuana over the last month, compared with 600,000 meth users over the previous month. The counties association, however, said that "county law enforcement officials have a different perspective on this ranking. With the growth of this drug from the rural areas of the western and northwestern regions of this country and its slow but continuing spread to the east, local law enforcement officials see it as their number one drug problem." Small and large labs Meth is imported from Mexico, Canada and Asia, the association said, as well as produced in small or large labs across the United States using household ingredients like cold medicines and fertilizer. "The small lab methamphetamine production and market was originally dominated by motorcycle gangs and local producers chiefly in California and the Pacific northwest," the association said, "but has grown now to include major producers in Mexico who are responsible for the organized trafficking of meth and by the thousands of small producers in nearly all areas of the country." "Meth can be manufactured in barns, garages, back rooms of businesses, apartments, hotel and motel rooms, storage facilities, vacant buildings and vehicles," the association said — and even a suitcase. The full report is online at www.naco.org.
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07-05-2005, 01:11 PM	#16
Calcountry Shoot the tube Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $7527870	I serve the public, and have waited on meth heads. They ask a question about something, I take a breath to articulate the words in the form on answer, and they have already turned their head and are grabbing something different to BUY!!!!11 NOW!!!, then ask anohter question about a 3rd issue, mid sentence I change to the new answer and WHOOOp, they grab something totally unrelated to the other things and questions, SLAM it on the counter11!! So I just start typing at the cash register as quick as I can and blurt out the total, the cash comes flying I make change, and WHOOP sometimes they won't even take it if it is coin, they are GONE!!11 out the dore before I can say thanks.
Posts: 29,479

07-05-2005, 01:52 PM	#20
MichaelH Go Chiefs! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Gastonia, North Carolina Casino cash: $9192006	I'm from northeastern Pennsylvania, far from the west coast or even the mid west. I saw the crap in college 20 years ago. Later, working construction I met many burnouts that had been doing it for many years. I think it is a major problem, but not a new one.
Posts: 3,187

07-05-2005, 01:58 PM	#23
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1838454	I said it the other night........I'm a hater of the meth. ...this weekend, in small town Iowania, I saw a guy get tackled and was stabbed multiple times by 3 meth monkeys because he told one who was 2osomething to stop trying to eff his 14year old daughter. Its eaten up a couple of my good friends. Meth makers/distributers should be shot on site.
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07-05-2005, 02:02 PM	#25
Chiefless Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10007500	"1) Walk over at 4am when he is on one of his screaming tirades and ask him to please quiet down. Perhaps if he knew how much he was bother others, he would curb his disruptive behavior. If he refuses, or threatens you, pull the .357 Magnum revolver from your jacket, point the barrel in the direction of his chest and begin pulling the trigger. 2) Some morning about 10am, when he is sleeping it off, take a gallon of gas over and douse his garage. Light a cigarette, throw it on the gas. Walk away." I have those fantasies daily...you have no idea. I've often wanted to ask detectives just how hard they would look for this dirtbag's killer. Now, mind you, I don't have that in me, but in my fantasies he is one dead mofo.
Posts: 1,326

07-05-2005, 02:23 PM	#30
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1838454	I've said it before and I'll repeat it now.... The Cure for meth? 1 really really big Govt Produced and distributed "bad batch". Chiefless...............I think you just said the sollution to your problem. Make it known, who flipped on the dealers, and they'll eventually find him with his hands and mouth duct taped floating in a lagoon. *insert standard planet sollution 1 piture of Icy, Cold Lime or Orange antifreeze Koolaide left in front of the garage, complete with enough Dixie Cups for everyone inside.
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