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Saw Matt Lane bring this up as well, but if your main concern is that he's a rotational player, that's not exactly going to change in the NFL.

He's still going to be much more fresh than the guys blocking him.
I preferred Darius Alexander as a prospect but he isn't without questions either so it is what it is.
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I preferred Darius Alexander as a prospect but he isn't without questions either so it is what it is.
I thought Alexander was the better prospect, but he's also like 25. He's supposed to be further along, and age for age, he's not as far as he should be.
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You mean to tell me Calijah Kancey, a top 20 pick, and one of the best interior pass rushers to come out in the last decade, is better?

You're really bad at this. No wonder you've stopped talking draft during the process on here after looking like a clown with your Worthy takes.


Shouldn't you actually be having fun talking draft?


It doesn't seem like you are enjoying yourself.





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Talking to you is as much fun as shopping at Walmart.
Dude you just tried to compare a late 2nd rounder to a top 20 pick and one of the best interior pass rushers we've seen in a decade.

It's the equivalent of saying that it's "not as obvious" with Nohl Williams as it was with Trent McDuffie. No ****ing shit! It's a completely nonsensical comparison.
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I understand the pick and the high value of pass-rush but this pick was my least favorite.

I like the idea of tool boxing guys to create a complete DT but a DT that plays 17 snaps in college in just a pass-rush role seems like a bit of a reach in the 2nd. Reminds me of last year where we took Kingsley because we loved the idea of hitting value on LT but we were wish casting a bit.

Hopefully his numbers aren't fluff and this pass-rush ability translates to the next level.
Kid had an amazing pass rush win rate vs the big boys in the SEC so we know what he is.

As for his low snap count, that’s what Wharton’s role was here. He had to play more snaps earlier in the season this year bc Danna and Omenihu were injured, but when Omenihu got back this was his snap %.

49%
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Wharton was a speciality player who didn’t get a ton of snaps. Only gripe about ONM is it feels like they really just tried to find another Wharton with a higher ceiling but I get it.
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That's an odd comparison honestly like who does that?

Like I was surprised we took Gilotte over Princely but it's all preference.
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Kid had an amazing pass rush win rate vs the big boys in the SEC so we know what he is.

As for his low snap count, that’s what Wharton’s role was here. He had to play more snaps earlier in the season this year bc Danna and Omenihu were injured, but when Omenihu got back this was his snap %.

49%
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64%-played garbage the snaps..

Wharton was a speciality player who didn’t get a ton of snaps. Only gripe about ONM is it feels like they really just tried to find another Wharton with a higher ceiling but I get it.
I just think it speaks to how many people are annoyed the Chiefs don't value guys who play NT. I can't count the number of times I've heard "what if Jones played next to a real nose?"
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Dude you just tried to compare a late 2nd rounder to a top 20 pick and one of the best interior pass rushers we've seen in a decade.

It's the equivalent of saying that it's "not as obvious" with Nohl Williams as it was with Trent McDuffie. No ****ing shit! It's a completely nonsensical comparison.
Learn to read bro.


My point was completely missed by you in that Kancey it was obvious he would be a demon pass-rusher in the NFL and Lott is less certain .


It is amusing that I love this draft and just said one player I didn't like as much gets you this fired up while half the regular posters here were shitting on Simmons pick and you did nothing.

Defend Veach better, you are slacking.
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That's an odd comparison honestly like who does that?

Like I was surprised we took Gilotte over Princely but it's all preference.
Exactly, anybody that does this stuff knows that's not at all a fair comparison for the 63rd pick in the draft
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Learn to read bro.


My point was completely missed by you in that Kancey it was obvious he would be a demon pass-rusher in the NFL and Lott is less certain .
You mean it was more obvious the the top 20 pick would dominate than the 63rd pick?

Just genius stuff here, dude.
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You mean it was more obvious the the top 20 pick would dominate than the 63rd pick?

Just genius stuff here, dude.


You are very slow and dimwitted.



Anyways, I know this is the best version of you and you are only going to get more annoying and feminine as the season is about to start so you're back on ignore.

I will take you off to learn about the 300 players you like best next year.
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That's an odd comparison honestly like who does that?

Like I was surprised we took Gilotte over Princely but it's all preference.
You guys have to get these undersized finesse rushers out of your head. Spags doesn’t like those guys. He didn’t like Dee Fordand he sure as hell didn’t like Josh Uche.

Princely was 6’4” 244 lbs. Kid is not a fit here.

Spags stops the run first. Go watch the Broncos/Bills playoff game if you want to know why. Best pass rush in the NFL statistically and they got prison raped by bigger OL running the ball down their throat and blowing them off the ball.

Also I’d encourage you to look at Gillotte’s numbers. He’s more athletic and 20 lbs heavier! Kid is really big and tops in the agility testing among DE’s at the combine.
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You guys have to get these undersized finesse rushers out of your head. Spags doesn’t like those guys. He didn’t like Dee Fordand he sure as hell didn’t like Josh Uche.

Princely was 6’4” 244 lbs. Kid is not a fit here.

Spags stops the run first. Go watch the Broncos/Bills playoff game if you want to know why. Best pass rush in the NFL statistically and they got prison raped by bigger OL running the ball down their throat and blowing them off the ball.

Also I’d encourage you to look at Gillotte’s numbers. He’s more athletic and 20 lbs heavier! Kid is really big and tops in the agility testing among DE’s at the combine.
Princely is 6'4 in an NFL weight program he isn't gonna continue to be 240lbs he likely ends up more like 255-260.
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I just think it speaks to how many people are annoyed the Chiefs don't value guys who play NT. I can't count the number of times I've heard "what if Jones played next to a real nose?"
Pennel IS a 'real nose'.

He's just not a long-term answer there. And we need depth behind him.

But they can find a fairly turnkey 2-gap nose in really any given draft by the end of the third round.

It's like taking Karlaftis or Rice instead of speed specialists when we did. It's just not the are we targeted because we're content with what we have at that spot at that time.
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Princely is 6'4 in an NFL weight program he isn't gonna continue to be 240lbs he likely ends up more like 255-260.
He came out of ol' miss. They have a weight room there.

He may get stronger or bigger or heavier - but like FAU, it's gonna come with a trade off. He's gonna lose some burst doing it.

When these guys spend some time in these big time college programs, you can trade physical assets but you're not likely to just raise their overall physical profile much.

He damn sure isn't adding 20 lbs of weight without sacrificing speed.
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