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Old 02-16-2025, 02:50 PM  
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Do you still believe is Mahomes and our coaching staff?
I for one do. We have seen them rise up and shut the critics up enough to not lose faith. It was ugly and surprising for sure but the SB magnifies everything for some reason. Mahomes for sure is no quitter and neither is Veach and Andy. We will recover and be right back in the AFCCG for another shot.
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Old 02-19-2025, 03:49 PM   #211
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It does seem like every Sb has been a real slog.
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Old 02-19-2025, 03:55 PM   #212
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They tried to run several RPOs. i don't have an exact snapcount or percentage of plays, but they only ran 44 plays to begin with. but I just watched the A-22 a few days ago, and they did run several more RPOs after the first series. the problem was that PHI-D sat on most of those plays, expecting a WR screen or other quick read play.
On the first two RPOs of the game Mahomes could have handed the ball off for 5+ yard gains easy.

The coaching staff can't account for a completely screwed up day from the QB.

It was 10-0 and then he threw a terrible pick on a pass that never would have been completed.

Mahomes has the largest amount of blame for this loss.
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Old 02-19-2025, 04:15 PM   #213
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You have to get ahold of yourself.

A coaching staff comprised of Andy Reid, Vince Lombardi, Bill Belichick and Tom Landry couldn't have won this game. The Chiefs just didn't have the players.
Not winning is one thing. Being down 34-0 is another.

The Commanders turned the ball over a zillion times and even they weren't down 34-0 to the Eagles.

Do you think Buffalo would have played a competitive game against the Eagles? If we didn't have the players as you put it, we shouldn't have beaten Buffalo either.

On paper, the Chiefs are a top 5 NFL team with talent. The Eagles may be number 1 but they're not that far ahead that this game was unwinnable from the opening whistle. We beat an arguably better Eagles team several years ago with a weaker overall Chiefs roster.

The Chiefs just played like they expected a coronation while the Eagles came ready for a fight. The coaching staff looked unprepared. Mahomes looked unprepared. It was ugly. But we're not TCU playing Georgia. It shouldn't have gone down like that.
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Old 02-19-2025, 04:16 PM   #214
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Not winning is one thing. Being down 34-0 is another.

The Commanders turned the ball over a zillion times and even they weren't down 34-0 to the Eagles.

Do you think Buffalo would have played a competitive game against the Eagles? If we didn't have the players as you put it, we shouldn't have beaten Buffalo either.
Those teams have offensive lines that far outclass ours.

The Chiefs just ran into a bad matchup and it was compounded by lousy QB play. Accept it.
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Old 02-19-2025, 04:18 PM   #215
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Those teams have offensive lines that far outclass ours.

The Chiefs just ran into a bad matchup and it was compounded by lousy QB play. Accept it.
We had three All Pro linemen play the entire season, including this game.

Aren't two of the Commanders linemen our former castoffs?
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We had three All Pro linemen play the entire season, including this game.

Aren't two of the Commanders linemen our former castoffs?
The Chiefs were weak at LT and LG, and the RG was outclassed by an elite DT.

Accept it. No coaching calculus existed to overcome these obstacles, especially on the road with a pro-Eagles crowd.
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Old 02-19-2025, 04:22 PM   #217
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It wasn’t even a particularly bad matchup. Our guys just didn’t come to play.
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Old 02-19-2025, 04:59 PM   #218
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Not winning is one thing. Being down 34-0 is another.

The Commanders turned the ball over a zillion times and even they weren't down 34-0 to the Eagles.

Do you think Buffalo would have played a competitive game against the Eagles? If we didn't have the players as you put it, we shouldn't have beaten Buffalo either.

On paper, the Chiefs are a top 5 NFL team with talent. The Eagles may be number 1 but they're not that far ahead that this game was unwinnable from the opening whistle. We beat an arguably better Eagles team several years ago with a weaker overall Chiefs roster.

The Chiefs just played like they expected a coronation while the Eagles came ready for a fight. The coaching staff looked unprepared. Mahomes looked unprepared. It was ugly. But we're not TCU playing Georgia. It shouldn't have gone down like that.
It shouldn't have been a blowout, I agree.

But is that an indictment? Because that seems to be what some of you guys are suggesting. It's really odd.
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The Chiefs were weak at LT and LG, and the RG was outclassed by an elite DT.

Accept it. No coaching calculus existed to overcome these obstacles, especially on the road with a pro-Eagles crowd.
I like Thuney, but as a LT he can hold up against a speed rusher but has problems against a bull rush. The eagles basically had the perfect matchup.
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I like Thuney, but as a LT he can hold up against a speed rusher but has problems against a bull rush. The eagles basically had the perfect matchup.
Yep. They had overwhelming advantages at our weakest points. It was enough to wreck the game, and it did. I knew going in we were gonna get killed on the left side, and thatvSmith was going to have his hands full with Carter. Thats why I thought the only chance we had was to go with Thuney at Guard, that way we'd kind of have our strengths against theirs, but the coaches didn't see it that way. That tells me that Andy thought the other options at LT were terrible. But man, if I were in position to do anything I would have moved Thuney back to G in game and taken my chances.
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It shouldn't have been a blowout, I agree.

But is that an indictment? Because that seems to be what some of you guys are suggesting. It's really odd.
It's an indictment of that game plan and performance. It doesn't erase any prior accomplishments or call for sweeping changes in coaching and personnel. That being said, the offense has been unprepared in the first half of all five Super Bowls. You can't always start slow and expect to make adjustments and comebacks. They need to reevaluate their preparation for Super Bowls if hopefully they make it back again.
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It shouldn't have been a blowout, I agree.

But is that an indictment? Because that seems to be what some of you guys are suggesting. It's really odd.
The Chiefs weren't winning this game and no amount of coaching was gonna change that.

Reminds of the 2015 loss to the Patriots.

Alex Smith wasn't going to pull that off, but some were blaming Andy.

Alex was throwing to Avant, Wilson, Conley, Maclin's corpse and wet-behind-the-ears Kelce, and handing it to West.

It was a miracle the Chiefs were even in that game.
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the offense has been unprepared in the first half of all five Super Bowls
Revisionist history.

Chiefs were tied 10-10 with SF.

2020 there was no way to tell if that team was prepared or not with that OL, and all the damn drops.

2022 they were prepared fine. Scored on the first two drives, then Mahomes missed a wide open MVS deep.

2023 they looked like they were trying to find the right combination early and when they finally did it stuck.

It's an oversimplication to say the Chiefs were unprepared in any of these games, especially with so many errors in execution.
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The Chiefs weren't winning this game and no amount of coaching was gonna change that.

Reminds of the 2015 loss to the Patriots.

Alex Smith wasn't going to pull that off, but some were blaming Andy.

Alex was throwing to Avant, Wilson, Conley, Maclin's corpse and wet-behind-the-ears Kelce, and handing it to West.

It was a miracle the Chiefs were even in that game.
How do you make these arguments with a straight face?

There's no comparison between the 2015 Chiefs and the 2024 Chiefs. This team finished 15-2, were two time defending Champions and have Patrick Mahomes.

Incidentally, the 2015 Chiefs never trailed the Patriots by five TDs.
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