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Yes. Which is why you get the **** up the board and take one of the top prospects available.
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Yes. Which is why you get the **** up the board and take one of the top prospects available.
So you would like to trade 2 1's a 2 and probably a 3 and a 4 to get this player?
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So you would like to trade 2 1's a 2 and probably a 3 and a 4 to get this player?
Gladly. Been banging the table for them to do just that since the 2021 draft.
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Yes. Which is why you get the **** up the board and take one of the top prospects available.
To get a plug and play guy, you're probably looking at two first as a starting baseline. History shows you're not much better picking at 18 or 22 as you are at 28 or 32.

The opportunity cost is just too high. This team has to reload through the draft. They can't afford to sell out for one position.
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Gladly. Been banging the table for them to do just that since the 2021 draft.
That's just a bad idea. We aren't gonna agree on this.
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To get a plug and play guy, you're probably looking at two first as a starting baseline. History shows you're not much better picking at 18 or 22 as you are at 28 or 32.

The opportunity cost is just too high. This team has to reload through the draft. They can't afford to sell out for one position.
A team would probably ask for even more from us since they know those picks aren't going to be in the top 20.
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I would think hard on using the 2nd and 3rd on drafting the best tackle prospects again.


We have our top 2 WRs now.
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I would think hard on using the 2nd and 3rd on drafting the best tackle prospects again.


We have our top 2 WRs now.
Yea...but we have other holes, if you move a bunch of picks for 1 guy we're going to lose depth and that's a real problem.
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Yea...but we have other holes, if you move a bunch of picks for 1 guy we're going to lose depth and that's a real problem.

We have to have a better o line.

Investing a 2 and a 3 is not outrageous at all.

If we hit on Kingsley and one of the others that frees cap space as we can let Taylor walk.
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They'll figure it out.

They won't trade up that high for a guy though I doubt.
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We have to have a better o line.

Investing a 2 and a 3 is not outrageous at all.

If we hit on Kingsley and one of the others that frees cap space as we can let Taylor walk.
I think maybe he thought you were talking about packaging a 1, 2, and 3 as part of a trade. I thought that the first time I read it.

If you're talking about continuing kind of what they did with Kingsley, yeah to me, that's the most logical option.
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Guarantee Andy isn’t messing with any more rookie LTs

Kingsley was the first rookie LT he started, and he was a disaster
Sure feels like this is probably the case. He was never a fan of doing it to begin with, and Kingsley probably caused trauma that won't be reversed.

Mecca mentioned Ronnie Stanley, and I have no idea how I didn't realize he was a free agent. If Baltimore doesn't resign or tag him before free agency, I could really see Veach going balls deep and making that happen. They were willing to pay Trent Williams a record deal, I bet they'd consider a huge deal for a player of his caliber.
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There haven’t been many unlucky things to happen during the Mahomes era, but at or near the top of that list has got to be the Fisher injury
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Yep. Hed probably still be playing.
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I think maybe he thought you were talking about packaging a 1, 2, and 3 as part of a trade. I thought that the first time I read it.

If you're talking about continuing kind of what they did with Kingsley, yeah to me, that's the most logical option.
Yes.

And I know it is normally dumb to say "I'm going this position this round" but the fact is that tons of great OL year after year get drafted in those rounds.


Keep the 1st for the best overall talent that falls down the board, any position.

Then grab a stud guard if there's a Creed like guy sticking out or if not take two exceptionally talented tackle prospects.

We know the score by now. If Mahomes is upright we win.
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