2024's Red zone failures

[scho63]

Boy, we sure have sucked balls in the redzone this year.

Thought Kareem and Dhop would help but last game we were 1 of 5 and this year we are at the bottom of the bottom third.

Can blame some on tackles but down inside the 20 you aren't holding the ball for very long.

I think the play calling has been poor and it seems our formations are so recognizable.

The inside shuffle pass has lost its luster.

We seem to have forgotten the jet sweep or quick slants.

I don't think we have had too many penalties inside the 20 but don't have the stats.

Who gets the blame here?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

That’s pretty much what Andy said. But his short passing game didn’t seem to be there either.

No, it didn't. It's puzzling that we consistently are inconsistent in the RZ, considering that Andy is an offensive genius.

I mean, look at TB for instance. They get into the RZ at a high rate, about 4 times/gm, good enough for third-best in the league, and then they convert TDs at a 3rd or 4th-best rate as well, about 66%.

And that's even without Evans and Godwin, with a middling IOL, and a RB1 that's not very good running between the tackles. But they run the ball well in the RZ and score most of their points from within the RZ.

Tbh, I've been kind of hoping Andy's been checking them out and stealing some of their RZ plays, particularly their run plays.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

No, it didn't. It's puzzling that we consistently are inconsistent in the RZ, considering that Andy is an offensive genius.

Heh. Is it puzzling? Red zone issues aren't new for Andy.

I mean, look at TB for instance. They get into the RZ at a high rate, about 4 times/gm, good enough for third-best in the league, and then they convert TDs at a 3rd or 4th-best rate as well, about 66%.

And that's even without Evans and Godwin, with a middling IOL, and a RB1 that's not very good running between the tackles. But they run the ball well in the RZ and score most of their points from within the RZ.

Tbh, I've been kind of hoping Andy's been checking them out and stealing some of their RZ plays, particularly their run plays.

So, Andy's this big offensive genius, yet he needs to steal plays from Liam Cohen in order to figure out how to score touchdowns in the redzone with the greatest qb that ever lived, and arguably the best te to ever play?

You are hoping for Andy Reid to in essence, become the Carlos Mencia of NFL offense?

Interesting take.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

So, Andy's this big offensive genius, yet he needs to steal plays from Liam Cohen in order to figure out how to score touchdowns in the redzone with the greatest qb that ever lived, and arguably the best te to ever play?

You are hoping for Andy Reid to in essence, become the Carlos Mencia of NFL offense?

Interesting take.

It's pretty well-known that everyone steals from everybody in the NFL, didn't you know that? We see other teams using Andy's plays every single week. And Andy has admitted to stealing plays from other teams. Other eras, even, or don't you remember the "Rose Bowl" play?

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

It's pretty well-known that everyone steals from everybody in the NFL, didn't you know that? We see other teams using Andy's plays every single week. And Andy has admitted to stealing plays from other teams. Other eras, even, or don't you remember the "Rose Bowl" play?

So is Andy a genius, or simply a play thief?

Taking someone else's work and being credited with the results doesn't really fly most places.

Anyway, my main question to you is why would a genius not be able to figure out the red zone plays on his own?

Steal from Liam Cohen is what you're hoping for Andy to do, in your own words, because Cohen in fact has done far better in the Redzone with less.

Is Liam Cohen also a genius?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

So is Andy a genius, or simply a play thief?

Taking someone else's work and being credited with the results doesn't really fly most places.

Anyway, my main question to you is why would a genius not be able to figure out the red zone plays on his own?

Steal from Liam Cohen is what you're hoping for Andy to do, in your own words, because Cohen in fact has done far better in the Redzone with less.

Is Liam Cohen also a genius?

Lol, why are you being so purposefully obtuse? They don’t call it a ‘copycat league’ for nothing. Everyone steals from everyone, and you must know that. Stop with the nonsense already.

And stop conflating what I said. If one coach seems to have been more successful in one aspect of offense, why shouldn’t Andy take notes? Being a genius doesn’t mean he knows absolutely everything. And the smartest coaches are always trying to learn new things and learn from others if they can. It’s how they get better.

Maybe you should learn that lesson as well. Because you sure aren’t the smartest guy in the room.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, why are you being so purposefully obtuse? They don’t call it a ‘copycat league’ for nothing. Everyone steals from everyone, and you must know that. Stop with the nonsense already.

The copycats copy because........

Spoiler!

They aren't smart or creative enough to come up with it themselves

Now, these other 31 coaches aren't being lauded as genius, or the greatest offensive play designer and play caller in football.

That's supposed to be your boy, Andy.



And stop conflating what I said. If one coach seems to have been more successful in one aspect of offense, why shouldn’t Andy take notes?

Why would someone be more successful than the greatest play designer and play caller in football?


Being a genius doesn’t mean he knows absolutely everything.

Genius: a person who is exceptionally intelligent or creative, either generally or in some particular respect.

If Andy is exceptionally intelligent and creative in the redzone as im being told is the case, then he doesnt need to copy off of Liam Cohens redzone offense test.

And the smartest coaches are always trying to learn new things and learn from others if they can. It’s how they get better.

Maybe you should learn that lesson as well. Because you sure aren’t the smartest guy in the room.

Personal attacks look so good on you when your argument has fallen apart.

Imagine touting Andy as the greatest, and then openly admitting you hope that he steals Liam Cohens redzone plays because as we've seen numerous times over his career, Andy is once again a frothy jar of ass when it comes to redzone td percentage.

Lmao.

[htismaqe]

Jesus could we limit the ****ing Andy Reid rants to just 1 or 2 threads?

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, why are you being so purposefully obtuse? They don’t call it a ‘copycat league’ for nothing. Everyone steals from everyone, and you must know that. Stop with the nonsense already.

And stop conflating what I said. If one coach seems to have been more successful in one aspect of offense, why shouldn’t Andy take notes? Being a genius doesn’t mean he knows absolutely everything. And the smartest coaches are always trying to learn new things and learn from others if they can. It’s how they get better.

Maybe you should learn that lesson as well. Because you sure aren’t the smartest guy in the room.

It's his whole thing. He's like this in pretty much everyone of his posts and then you get a ****ing Wall of text (which honestly should be his username on here). I don't even read most of his shit anymore.

I think he gets in these moods where he gets tired of beating on his family and pets so he comes on here to take it out on us every once in awhile. I'm just happy we can save his family for at least a while.

Also I think he's on meth, because God damn he will just write and write and write. He will be responding to 6 different people in one thread talking about different topics.

[Sassy Squatch]

Andy Reid 'stole' the concept that was used to win two Super Bowls back to back. There's, uh, quite a bit more to it than just copying what others do.

[Megatron96]

Now I remember why I put that moron on ignore. Back you go into your box, dipstick. Yeesh, what an idiot.