Recent UFO hearings

[TripleThreat]

Sooooooo what exactly is going on? I don’t see a UFO thread and it seems congress is currently and has been having sessions with “whistleblowers” about UFO’s. What these guys are saying is essentially telling us we are 100% not alone and our private contractors have all the information and evidence to prove this. With that said, are these guys credible??

[Fish]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

Have you ever used a cellphone to try and take a picture of a full moon?

We have dramatically better optic technology than cell phones out there which are continuously recording the night sky for all kinds of different scientific and amateur purposes at all times. I think it's telling that there's still no irrefutable evidence from these kinds of independent sources. These whistleblowers have claimed for a long time now that the physical evidence of extraterrestrials exists, but have given endless excuses for why they can't just expose that info to the public. Elizondo in particular has used that excuse for 5-6 years straight. Always some excuse why they have to wait for some reason.

Show some actual evidence. Something, anything that can be independently verified.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

We have dramatically better optic technology than cell phones out there which are continuously recording the night sky for all kinds of different scientific and amateur purposes at all times. I think it's telling that there's still no irrefutable evidence from these kinds of independent sources. These whistleblowers have claimed for a long time now that the physical evidence of extraterrestrials exists, but have given endless excuses for why they can't just expose that info to the public. Elizondo in particular has used that excuse for 5-6 years straight. Always some excuse why they have to wait for some reason.

Show some actual evidence. Something, anything that can be independently verified.

[Fish]

And your response in another grainy artifacted night vision video? I mean, can you at least understand why people can't really get excited about that again?

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

And your response in another grainy artifacted night vision video? I mean, can you at least understand why people can't really get excited about that again?

If you read the description…this is from 2011 with very high end video equipment (for 2011). Which is important because 2011 is well before current drone tech. I know it’s easy to dismiss because we have cameras “everywhere” but the cameras are not pointed at the sky and those that are are not looking for areal phenomena, but rather weather patterns and looking far deeper into space. These objects are operating from 10,000 to 80,000 feet not something your average traffic/personal/law enforcement camera will easily see from the ground. Remember, 10,000 feet is almost 2 miles away that’s farther than powerful sniper rifle scopes. Chris Kyle has the farthest confirmed kill at 1.2 miles with a sniper rifle and that’s still a very difficult sight picture. But you want perfect pictures of objects that are flying at much farther distances.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by Donger

Silly. Aliens don't exist.

I think life almost certainly exists elsewhere in the milky way or elsewhere, the chances are too high. But human like intelligence might not, and hell human like intelligence may even be an evolutionary dead end (jury is still out on if humans can avoid making themselves extinct). And even if there's other beings intelligent as humans, that doesn't mean they're able to create space faring technology. And even if they are, if our understanding of physics is correct (which it probably is for the most part), then the distances are too vast to overcome. We very very likely have neighbors, but we'll never meet them.

Or it could just be like, chemotrophs living in the soil of a planet like Mars.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Have you ever tried to take a picture through a closed window and a steamy shower curtain while balanced on a tree branch in the dark over a barking dog?

My lawyers says I'm not allowed to comment on my ongoing case

[Hog Rider]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

The key question here is, if the government has proof of extraterrestrial civilization, why has the information not been shared?

Some here are assuming that it's about profit and power. That's certainly a viable theory, which we'll call Theory 1. I'd think it's less about profit since it hasn't been put to use (that we know of) commercially. I could see militaries using it and not wanting to show it. I think this theory is not overly likely because this isn't the use of discovered artifacts. They're still coming around, so something more must be happening.

Theory 2 is that they're not sharing the information because they fear that it'll undermine some elements of society. Clearly, a lot of creation theories in religions will become obsolete. However, this is unlikely because this sort of things can be studied, and religions are very adept at adjusting their messaging as dictated by real-world events.

Theory 3 is that it's known that an alien fleet is on its way to destroy us, and it'll destroy civilization if that information becomes public. A concealment could be either benevolent or it could be to buy time to build defenses. I think this is unlikely because the various nations would likely be working together for the greater good instead of fighting and posturing like normal.

Theory 4 is that we're in contact with the aliens and are negotiating some sort of agreement. This agreement could be friendly or it could be negotiating a surrender and some sort of subservient role. I think this is highly possible, though it's taking too long to be my favorite theory.

Theory 5 is that we know they're around, but we can't make contact with them yet. The UFOs are likely drones for a variety of reasons, so we're just seeing reconnaissance vehicles as they learn about us or monitor us. We may be concealing their existence until we can figure out why they're here.


I think it's Theory 5. We can't figure out who they are and why they're here, so it's not public yet. Theory 1 is merely an outcome of the fact that we've managed to learn some things in the process, and we're putting that learning to use.

Theory 6: "To Serve Mankind"

[vonBobo]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

But you want perfect pictures of objects that are flying at much farther distances.

Yeah, that's how evidence works.
We don't know the blobs are terrestrial or even physical. We don't know that the government is even telling the truth about the blobs. To declare a blob as ET is belief, not fact.

I hope I'm wrong, I hope more evidence is provided.

[vonBobo]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

I think life almost certainly exists elsewhere in the milky way or elsewhere, the chances are too high. But human like intelligence might not, and hell human like intelligence may even be an evolutionary dead end (jury is still out on if humans can avoid making themselves extinct). And even if there's other beings intelligent as humans, that doesn't mean they're able to create space faring technology. And even if they are, if our understanding of physics is correct (which it probably is for the most part), then the distances are too vast to overcome. We very very likely have neighbors, but we'll never meet them.

Or it could just be like, chemotrophs living in the soil of a planet like Mars.

Or maybe life is so abundant that it makes the earth insignificant. Then add in the cost of space travel. Do humans go exploring every ant mound in the Serengeti?

[Otter]

I tend give a military pilot more credibility (lucidity, education, IQ, sobriety etc) than the average UFO sighting and there's some pretty interesting testimonies on the internet available for viewing.


Here's one: