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The scene where they were walking down the hall really cried out for the Kill Bill music.
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No more Musical episodes, okay, SNW? Can we get on the same page there?

It does tend to get a little TOO lighthearted at time; little too jokey. The tone is all over the place. But that's about the only complaint I have about it.

The crossover episode with Below Decks was pretty damn funny. And there were a few killer episodes in there. It's just that they get pretty goofy at times (the Spock body switch episode, for instance).

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Old 07-29-2024, 01:50 PM   #502
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It does tend to get a little TOO lighthearted at time; little too jokey. The tone is all over the place. But that's about the only complaint I have about it.
That's definitely intentional but I can't say I have a problem with it. Trek traditionally has never been serious all of the time (other than Discovery which was absolute dreck).
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That's definitely intentional but I can't say I have a problem with it. Trek traditionally has never been serious all of the time (other than Discovery which was absolute dreck).
I can't say that I've seen every episode of the OS (though I might have; used to watch them after school) and I don't remember them being quite that cheesy even at their goofiest. Then again, time probably has something to do with that; I gotta imagine the tribble episode was seen as goofball dreck before it was seen as a classic.

I watched most of TNG over time and certainly don't remember that kind of tonal shift. It seemed to be the most high-minded of all of them. I would've been surprised if those folks would debase themselves. Then again, the Sherlock episodes weren't exactly super serious. So yeah, maybe you're right.
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I can't say that I've seen every episode of the OS (though I might have; used to watch them after school) and I don't remember them being quite that cheesy even at their goofiest. Then again, time probably has something to do with that; I gotta imagine the tribble episode was seen as goofball dreck before it was seen as a classic.

I watched most of TNG over time and certainly don't remember that kind of tonal shift. It seemed to be the most high-minded of all of them. I would've been surprised if those folks would debase themselves. Then again, the Sherlock episodes weren't exactly super serious. So yeah, maybe you're right.
TOS was full of cheese (Tribbles was an example of it where it was done quite well, but there were plenty of episodes where it wasn't).

And I think you'd be surprised on a rewatch of TNG just how many light episodes of it there actually were (for just one example, there was one episode late in the series which consisted of several of the characters being transformed into children). Those generally aren't my favorite, but I think there is a time and a place for them.
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This ridiculous episode at least gave us this Worf line.
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The difference is the characters used to take themselves seriously. In fact a lot of the humor is derived from taking those serious characters and putting them in a ridiculous situation (see both examples above). Now all the characters are quippy dumbasses. In some ways this show is more of a cartoon than Lower Decks. At least Lower Decks takes their plots seriously.
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The difference is the characters used to take themselves seriously. If fact a lot of the humor is derived from taking those serious characters and putting them in a ridiculous situation (see both examples above). Now all the characters are quippy dumbasses. In some ways this show is more of a cartoon as Lower Decks. At least Lower Decks takes their plots seriously.
If you don't think this show is capable of being serious (and doing it well), I'd suggest watching the finale of S1 again.
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I also personally liked the Klingon defector episode best of S2 (with one of the darker endings Trek has ever done), but the Lower Decks comedy crossover was also great. Couldn't be much tonally different than those two (back-to-back) episodes and they worked very well for different reasons.
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I also personally liked the Klingon defector episode best of S2 (with one of the darker endings Trek has ever done), but the Lower Decks comedy crossover was also great. Couldn't be much tonally different than those two (back-to-back) episodes and they worked very well for different reasons.
Yeah, the defector one was outstanding. The sort of Its a Wonderful Life episode where Pike gets the visit from his future self was really good as well, IMO.

Definitely more good than bad, don't get me wrong. Probably my favorite Trek show (I still prefer the two newer reboot movies to anything else in the Trek universe, though -- they're just really good).
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