****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Most of the WR's on this team would not see the field elsewhere. To think otherwise is a display of your ignorance of what other NFL teams have at the position.

You said they got rid of their #1 wr with no replacement. It was then explained to you that they did in fact replace him with Rice. You then say that the WR's don't compare with other teams which is a 100% completely different conversation than if they replaced Juju or not.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Kurt Warner breaking down film about Mahomes not trusting his receivers.

https://twitter.com/kurt13warner/sta...84641850024132

Which honestly after watching it. Kurt makes it sounds like Mahomes is making mistakes he normally doesn't make when going through reads.

Every game you could pull up tape of a qb missing a read or opportunities. Some of the examples he used Pat still made a play. Pat ain't been perfect this year obviously but his stats have clearly been hampered by poor WR play.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Every game you could pull up tape of a qb missing a read or opportunities. Some of the examples he used Pat still made a play. Pat ain't been perfect this year obviously but his stats have clearly been hampered by poor WR play.

He’s been worse than last year with a similar caliber of WRs.

Can we acknowledge that? It hardly means he’s been bad - he’s still a top 3-5 QB and doesn’t always need to be at MVP level - but it’s entirely possible his playing at that level last year elevated the group and gave hope to Veach, etc that he could do it again.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

he’s still a top 3-5 QB

We have been so spoiled. He is still No.1 in the league and there would be 31 other teams that would "ditch" their starter in a heartbeat if there was a chance for Pat regardless of lack of chemistry with WRs thus missing open WRs.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I would fall under others!

#MeToo

I’ve almost always followed quickly with “I’m sure he’ll get it figured out soon though”, so as not to be banished to ChiefsPlanet purgatory for all eternity. He hasn’t played up to his historically lofty standards so far this season, which just means that he’s a human being and not a cyborg. He’s bound to have a few seasons in his career that don’t quite measure up to the standard he’s set. Which is the best QB in NFL history imho.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

You said they got rid of their #1 wr with no replacement. It was then explained to you that they did in fact replace him with Rice. You then say that the WR's don't compare with other teams which is a 100% completely different conversation than if they replaced Juju or not.

Great, then you can explain to me why 2 weeks ago in the biggest game of the year the KC coaching staff believed the #1 WR on the team was Justin Watson.

Let's hear it.

[MahomesMagic]

Offense is currently sitting at 13th in the NFL, behind the Dange Russ led Donkeys, the Gardner Minshew led Colts, the Houston Texans with a rookie QB, and the Geno Smith led Seahawks.

1 Miami 0.491 0.349 0.493 0.586 0.404 0.397
2 Dallas 0.486 0.604 0.519 0.584 0.376 0.410
3 San Francisco 0.465 0.500 0.477 0.482 0.450 0.424
4 Baltimore 0.426 0.475 0.290 0.497 0.358 0.328
5 Philadelphia 0.421 0.483 0.569 0.491 0.363 0.435
6 Buffalo 0.421 0.409 0.370 0.468 0.375 0.426
7 Detroit 0.390 0.468 0.282 0.424 0.351 0.415
8 Denver 0.386 0.400 0.468 0.397 0.366 0.266
9 LA Chargers 0.380 0.347 0.152 0.383 0.377 0.344
10 Indianapolis 0.375 0.354 0.386 0.406 0.337 0.262
11 Seattle 0.367 0.354 0.547 0.380 0.354 0.388
12 Houston 0.364 0.362 0.362 0.382 0.342 0.285
13 Kansas City 0.361 0.367 0.534 0.371 0.351 0.456
14 Jacksonville 0.352 0.319 0.353 0.314 0.381 0.379
15 Minnesota 0.346 0.302 0.196 0.305 0.391 0.380
16 Green Bay 0.345 0.374 0.537 0.280 0.407 0.352

Guess our only chance of getting out of offensive mediocrity is hoping Mahomes plays better according to the new folk wisdom of CP.

Of course that leads to other questions such as, " Why are these teams scoring points more efficiently than us? ".

Geno Smith, Gardner Minshew, and even current Russ are low level NFL starters.

Has Mahomes slipped past them too?!

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Great, then you can explain to me why 2 weeks ago in the biggest game of the year the KC coaching staff believed the #1 WR on the team was Justin Watson.

Let's hear it.

Remember when you tried to pretend that you don't constantly use emojis to be a passive agressive bundle of sticks?

It was one ****ing game. They've clearly been working towards making Rice the guy, and the snap counts reflect that.

You think 2 weeks ago is more indicative of how things will look going forward, while anybody with common ****ing sense knows last week is, and it's all in service of your narrative.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Offense is currently sitting at 13th in the NFL, behind the Dange Russ led Donkeys, the Gardner Minshew led Colts, the Houston Texans with a rookie QB, and the Geno Smith led Seahawks.

1 Miami 0.491 0.349 0.493 0.586 0.404 0.397
2 Dallas 0.486 0.604 0.519 0.584 0.376 0.410
3 San Francisco 0.465 0.500 0.477 0.482 0.450 0.424
4 Baltimore 0.426 0.475 0.290 0.497 0.358 0.328
5 Philadelphia 0.421 0.483 0.569 0.491 0.363 0.435
6 Buffalo 0.421 0.409 0.370 0.468 0.375 0.426
7 Detroit 0.390 0.468 0.282 0.424 0.351 0.415
8 Denver 0.386 0.400 0.468 0.397 0.366 0.266
9 LA Chargers 0.380 0.347 0.152 0.383 0.377 0.344
10 Indianapolis 0.375 0.354 0.386 0.406 0.337 0.262
11 Seattle 0.367 0.354 0.547 0.380 0.354 0.388
12 Houston 0.364 0.362 0.362 0.382 0.342 0.285
13 Kansas City 0.361 0.367 0.534 0.371 0.351 0.456
14 Jacksonville 0.352 0.319 0.353 0.314 0.381 0.379
15 Minnesota 0.346 0.302 0.196 0.305 0.391 0.380
16 Green Bay 0.345 0.374 0.537 0.280 0.407 0.352

Guess our only chance of getting out of offensive mediocrity is hoping Mahomes plays better according to the new folk wisdom of CP.

Of course that leads to other questions such as, " Why are these teams scoring points more efficiently than us? ".

Geno Smith, Gardner Minshew, and even current Russ are low level NFL starters.

Has Mahomes slipped past them too?!

I notice you don't mention them being just below Houston.

Wonder why?

The Texans offense with this D would be a legit threat to win the AFC and the SB.

[staylor26]

And I'm so ****ing sick of the WR cult taking any criticism of Mahomes as putting all the blame on him.

Not a single ****ing person has said that it's all Mahomes fault.

Nobody thinks that Mahomes has been a bigger issue than the WRs.

It's such a disingenuous response to any criticism thrown his way.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by staylor26

And I'm so ****ing sick of the WR cult taking any criticism of Mahomes as putting all the blame on him.

Not a single ****ing person has said that it's all Mahomes fault.

Nobody thinks that Mahomes has been a bigger issue than the WRs.

It's such a disingenuous response to any criticism thrown his way.

You comment has been noted

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

You comment has been noted

**** off.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Great, then you can explain to me why 2 weeks ago in the biggest game of the year the KC coaching staff believed the #1 WR on the team was Justin Watson.

Let's hear it.

You're assuming an awful lot there.

There are any number of reasons why one player might get a lot of targets in a specific game.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You're assuming an awful lot there.

There are any number of reasons why one player might get a lot of targets in a specific game.

Enlighten us why Justin Watson would get 11 targets in the biggest game of the year as if he was a prime Megatron or Julio Jones?!


Also explain not only the volume but the importance of the downs he was thrown at. On 3rd and 3 or 4 in the 4th quarter with the Chiefs needing a TD and score to pull away Justin Watson was the primary read on that game critical 3rd down. And he ran a short slant! You think Rice can't run that? No need for a veteran journeyman there but they trusted Watson more there. Watson of course dropped that pass but that didn't stop him from finding more ways to drop the ball later, such as 4th and 25 with the game on the line again.

Now of course Rice had a great game last weeks and was targeted more as almost everyone here wanted, including myself.

But one game is way too early to declare it's done, he's the one. I think he should be. You think he should be. I think he WILL BE. But realistically we need to see more. Especially because the Eagles game didn't happen first month of the season, it happened just recently AFTER they had 2 weeks to fix the offense and the solution was more Justin Watson.

You of all people should know this since you declared Rice was the #1 WR 7 or 8 games ago when he was not in fact getting the most snaps or the most targets.

I wish for it too. But wishes don't make it so.


And then let's say we do all that and Rice gets that role and is fed again and again. He still needs to produce and we will see other teams bring more attention to him.

In any case, I hope they do keep feeding Rice because the only WRs I see as possible difference makers in a big game are Rice and the always injured Toney.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Insert Rice as the #1 and it looks much better.