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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 11-25-2023, 04:37 PM   #8026
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He has time because he is making the time. Draw an imaginary half circle behind the offensive line, and you will see the tackles, both of them, on the wrong of that half circle probably 65% of the time.

Neither of them can run block at all. AT ALL. And again, regardless of what PFF says, or any other stat that suggests they are good, because they aren't.

Taylor was a waste of money. Could have signed Wiley and a big time receiver for the same price, and we would probably be 10-0 or 9-1.
Which big time WRs were available? I’ll give you PFF’s top 5 who were options for us:

1/ Jakobi Meyers
2/ JuJu
3/ Odell Beckham Jr
4/ Michael Thomas
5/ DJ Chark

Not a great group.
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Old 11-25-2023, 04:43 PM   #8027
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Which big time WRs were available? I’ll give you PFF’s top 5 who were options for us:

1/ Jakobi Meyers
2/ JuJu
3/ Odell Beckham Jr
4/ Michael Thomas
5/ DJ Chark

Not a great group.
Doesn't matter when you're an idiot that doesn't actually pay any attention to the process.

It's really easy to bitch when you are ignorant to reality.
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Old 11-25-2023, 04:47 PM   #8028
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What? His post about the OL is hilariously wrong and reads like someone who didn't watch the game on Monday or the OL last year.
no, the other one.

First one is rerunned.
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Old 11-25-2023, 04:48 PM   #8029
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At this point IT'S much more likely that Moore will NEVER have a 100 yard game as a Chief, than it is he has 100 yards in this game.
THIS one.

Only time I think I've ever agreed with CF and it pains me.
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Old 11-25-2023, 04:53 PM   #8030
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Yeah not sure the Jets are the model we want to follow in issues like these.
Jets have screwed themselves...Will Aaron allow them to draft a QB of the future? you know he is making the calls...ala Easy Money Lazard
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Old 11-25-2023, 05:03 PM   #8031
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THIS one.

Only time I think I've ever agreed with CF and it pains me.
lol yea hard to disagree with that one.
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Old 11-25-2023, 05:03 PM   #8032
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Which big time WRs were available? I’ll give you PFF’s top 5 who were options for us:

1/ Jakobi Meyers
2/ JuJu
3/ Odell Beckham Jr
4/ Michael Thomas
5/ DJ Chark

Not a great group.
Some of us were advocating for signing D-Hop

Or are u talking about the early part of free agency?
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Old 11-25-2023, 05:08 PM   #8033
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Old 11-25-2023, 05:13 PM   #8034
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Some of us were advocating for signing D-Hop

Or are u talking about the early part of free agency?
He wasn’t released until late May, dude. That’s the point. He wasn’t even an option to consider versus signing Taylor.

We need to live in the reality of what the team was facing at that moment.
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Old 11-25-2023, 05:15 PM   #8035
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He wasn’t released until late May, dude. That’s the point. He wasn’t even an option to consider versus signing Taylor.

We need to live in the reality of what the team was facing at that moment.
Have you considered that people want to bitch about their AFC West leading defending Super Bowl champions though?
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Old 11-25-2023, 05:22 PM   #8036
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He wasn’t released until late May, dude. That’s the point. He wasn’t even an option to consider versus signing Taylor.

We need to live in the reality of what the team was facing at that moment.
Obviously you were talking about early on in free agency and the decision to sign Taylor. I get that there were not good options early on. But after D-Hop was released, had the Chiefs really wanted him, they could have signed him. That's also reality. All we heard was the Chiefs "Really like the current WR room. To which after hearing, many of us were shaking our heads.
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Old 11-25-2023, 05:28 PM   #8037
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Obviously you were talking about early on in free agency and the decision to sign Taylor. I get that there were not good options early on. But after D-Hop was released, had the Chiefs really wanted him, they could have signed him. That's also reality. All we heard was the Chiefs "Really like the current WR room. To which after hearing, many of us were shaking our heads.
Thanks. Didn’t know that. We need to re-litigate that again?

I never had full trust in our WRs and thought they were above average. I was definitely open to signing Hopkins though there’s no way I would’ve signed him at the price point the Titans did.

I just disagreed with people who claimed we couldn’t win a SB with this group and argued that we basically did last year with the same cast of characters. That’s been my position. They’ve underperformed since but I still think we can absolutely win a SB with them.
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Old 11-25-2023, 05:42 PM   #8038
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We need an entirely new position group. We have Toney and James who are basically Hardman. Then we have the actual Hardman. Then we have MVS who can only run in a straight line and will drop the ball at the end of it, and Moore who ought to be playing for the Edmonton Eskimos. Our #1 Watson ought to be getting Marcus Kemp snap numbers on a decent team. You can’t replace everyone in one offseason, and my fear is this is now a multi year problem.
I don't see it that way. While a whole new WR would be nice, reality is that we have limited resources and 1-2 new WRs would be a nice big jump. It's not that all our WRs suck. It's that most of them are role and depth WRs elevated to play primary roles. Every single WR we have is being elevated one more level up than theyre capable of. If we had a WR1 this year....

We could have been way more proactive about managing Kelce reps
Mvs and Watson would be fine disappearing for stretches to save for a big play
Rashee could have gradually leaned the game in the slot
Toney could be a full time gadget
Skyy is really the only guy that doesn't make much sense in any aspect

It's ok to fill the back half of our wr depth with role guys especially the cheap ones. The problem iswhen your back end becomes your front lines
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I don't see it that way. While a whole new WR would be nice, reality is that we have limited resources and 1-2 new WRs would be a nice big jump. It's not that all our WRs suck. It's that most of them are role and depth WRs elevated to play primary roles. Every single WR we have is being elevated one more level up than theyre capable of. If we had a WR1 this year....

We could have been way more proactive about managing Kelce reps
Mvs and Watson would be fine disappearing for stretches to save for a big play
Rashee could have gradually leaned the game in the slot
Toney could be a full time gadget
Skyy is really the only guy that doesn't make much sense in any aspect

It's ok to fill the back half of our wr depth with role guys especially the cheap ones. The problem iswhen your back end becomes your front lines


When Justin Watson is your #1 WR and getting 10+ targets like he is Cheetah or Davonte Adams there's a huge problem.
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When Justin Watson is your #1 WR and getting 10+ targets like he is Cheetah or Davonte Adams there's a huge problem.
Yup but it doesn't mean Watson is awful. If he was a rotational and depth guy he's a great guy to have for cheap. 1 guy turns around this entire room. But we should keep trying to find young talent to upgrade the room in general... It just isn't red hot urgent just yet
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