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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:31 AM   #5326
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Watson has nobody within 6 yards.
He has someone under him and someone on top of him. By the time the ball gets there, the safety is already coming down to break it up or to jump it.
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:34 AM   #5327
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He has someone under him and someone on top of him. By the time the ball gets there, the safety is already coming down to break it up or to jump it.
Exactly - does he not see the dude STARING at Pat daring him to throw to Watson? That throw would be a Sam Darnold special.
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:42 AM   #5328
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:45 AM   #5329
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Why is this such a mystery? He doesn't fully trust anyone not named Kelce.
I think he trusts Rice, Watson, and MVS
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:45 AM   #5330
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Exactly - does he not see the dude STARING at Pat daring him to throw to Watson? That throw would be a Sam Darnold special.
This is the problem with all the “that guy is wide open” takes. The fact that nobody is his hip pocket at a certain moment doesn’t mean that is the read or the correct throw, it doesn’t account for the progression, scrambling, visibility, etc.
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:47 AM   #5331
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:48 AM   #5332
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:50 AM   #5333
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:50 AM   #5334
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Good example here. Skyy gets wide open and Mahomes bails the pocket and completely ignores him. I've seen this happen with MVS as well.

At a certain point the finger needs to be pointed at Patrick for things too bc the nextgen separation stats are seen on tape.

Because you can’t view these plays in isolation. When WRs don’t consistently hit their spots which seems a big problem with skyy or don’t consistently separate, mahomes can’t anticipate his WRs open. When Mvs can’t make adjustments to the ball to the point where DBs can exploit, mahomes will not throw out unless he has even more separation. These lead to small hesitations or mahomes looking off guys which are crucial for defenses to close in. For every isolated video of a guy flying open there are multiple of mahomes looking like a dancing clown unable to find anybody. And when mahomes has taken these shots there’s even a 50/50 shot they’ll do anything with it.

And right now our team is structured to where we can’t recover from mistakes. We can’t recover from Mvs missing a pass because mahomes now only has 2 shots to get to a first down. That’s where you get that weird zone where mahomes is both tentative and pressing at the same time.
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:51 AM   #5335
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Huh? There was no one open on that play other than maybe McKinnon but he wasn't going to pick up 14 yards anyway
The flats were open they were the whole game throw it to them then let Denver make an adjustment can't stop everything. You take what the defense gives you. They know Mahomes wants to throw deep and they took it away.
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:53 AM   #5336
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Yeah, Reid isn't going to say "no, we really need better receivers", especially if a deal isn't already done.... he's not going to throw an entire group under the bus for the rest of the season.
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Old 10-30-2023, 11:56 AM   #5337
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The flats were open they were the whole game throw it to them then let Denver make an adjustment can't stop everything. You take what the defense gives you. They know Mahomes wants to throw deep and they took it away.
Mahomes has been taking what the defense gave him the past 2 years.
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I'll admit it. I had a couple 'Throw the ****ing ball, Brodie!' moments yesterday. Either get him into a shrink or figure out how he is processing things. He isn't throwing to the open receiver, he is holding on to the ball for too long. Yesterday his spatial awareness seemed off. Either it was the drugs he was on for his illness, or something else unknown to us regular folk.
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