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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****
They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 10-09-2023, 06:39 AM   #3271
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Dropped two after that. Hope he cleans that up.
I hope so too but I’d rather a guy who gets open than a guy who drops passes. In the first scenario you ask mahomes to hesitate or throw an ill advised pass or bail. In the second, mahomes feels confident he made the right read and the guy got open.
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Old 10-09-2023, 06:46 AM   #3272
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My concern with Ross was that he might be slow and just can't separate -- and that Mahomes won't throw him the ball if that's the case. That he'll just be a jump-ball red zone guy. But seeing that long catch on 2nd-and-long was great. He has burst.

Like I just said in the Rice thread, man I just wanna see this guy get more chances. F MVS and the gadget guys. Give me a thoroughbred and let's go man.
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:00 AM   #3273
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Still can't get over how many posters excitedly ran into the GDT howling about how they were proven correct when we all feared Kelce was seriously hurt. You guys need some hugs in your life.
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:06 AM   #3274
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Moore's snaps are definitely starting to get cut back and they've started incorporating Rice more and Toney got alot more snaps yesterday.

It's no coincidence that yesterday was one of their better offensive days.
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:14 AM   #3275
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Moore's snaps are definitely starting to get cut back and they've started incorporating Rice more and Toney got alot more snaps yesterday.

It's no coincidence that yesterday was one of their better offensive days.
Yep, another dud for Moore.
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:16 AM   #3276
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Here are the snap counts and % from yesterday's game, and in parentheses the % of snaps played in the previous game agains the Jets


MVS 43 snaps - 65.2% (58.6% against Jets)
Moore 37 - 56.1% (58.6%)
Watson 29 - 43.9% (61.4%)
Toney 25 - 37.9% (24.3%)
Rice 20 - 30.3% (45.7%)
Ross 6 - 9.1% (5.7%)
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:17 AM   #3277
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Yep, another dud for Moore.
DJ hit it on the head, but it was obvious on his early in the game RPO. They had numbers on the outside, swung it out to MOore and he danced around instead of just attacking the defender and turned a first down into a 3rd down.
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:19 AM   #3278
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Together, MVS + Moore played 80 snaps and were targeted 4 times, resulting in a total of 3 receptions for 23 yards.
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:19 AM   #3279
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Here are the snap counts and % from yesterday's game, and in parentheses the % of snaps played in the previous game agains the Jets


MVS 43 snaps - 65.2% (58.6% against Jets)
Moore 37 - 56.1% (58.6%)
Watson 29 - 43.9% (61.4%)
Toney 25 - 37.9% (24.3%)
Rice 20 - 30.3% (45.7%)
Ross 6 - 9.1% (5.7%)
Just keep getting Toney and Rice up and Moore down.
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:19 AM   #3280
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Chiefs were in heavy personnel alot yesterday.
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Here are the snap counts and % from yesterday's game, and in parentheses the % of snaps played in the previous game agains the Jets


MVS 43 snaps - 65.2% (58.6% against Jets)
Moore 37 - 56.1% (58.6%)
Watson 29 - 43.9% (61.4%)
Toney 25 - 37.9% (24.3%)
Rice 20 - 30.3% (45.7%)
Ross 6 - 9.1% (5.7%)
Wow that really didn’t pop out at me. I don’t even remember seeing much of skyy and Mvs during the 3rd quarter which was when we made our move. I wonder if a lot of that is from the first half and the 4th quarter milk the clock mode.
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:28 AM   #3282
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Dropped two after that. Hope he cleans that up.
More snaps will help with that imop though. It's probbaly hard coming in cold for 4-5 snaps a game.
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Wow that really didn’t pop out at me. I don’t even remember seeing much of skyy and Mvs during the 3rd quarter which was when we made our move. I wonder if a lot of that is from the first half and the 4th quarter milk the clock mode.
Yeah, I was surprised too. We saw that there was more of Toney, but Watson and Rice were actually down.

This doesn't tell us how many were passing downs, how many looks they got running routes how many chances they truly had on a given snap to make a reception, etc
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LOL. This is comical. I’m dying. We didn’t trade for Toney with that draft capital to find an immediate Hardman replacement. We traded for Toney because we had 3.5yrs of team control for a young WR that had a ton of potential.
I didn’t say we traded for Toney as an immediate replacement for Hardman. I didn’t even suggest it so I’m not sure where you’re getting that from.

If I remember right, Hardman was banged up early on in 2022 before finally heading to IR for something a bit more serious. Couple that with Juju also dealing with injuries early on and I’d imagine that played a huge factor in Veach calling about Toney midseason.
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