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Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 08-29-2023, 07:55 AM   #2701
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I will never hate on a player trying to get the most money he can, but I will certainly chuckle when it backfires on them if they overvalue their demand.
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Old 08-29-2023, 07:59 AM   #2702
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I've always kinda wondered how that dynamic goes when you overpromise and underdeliver as an agent.

It's kinda your job to figure that shit out before we get to this point. Then when push comes to shove....why would you dig in?

I just don't understand here with what the Chiefs likely want to pay to keep Jones around and with all the equity he has with the team, why he wouldn't want to take what he can and stay.
It should get you fired. It does in most industries, especially when you only get 2-3 bites at this apple in your entire working career.

Now it may be petty - it isn't as though Katz did/didn't do anything specifically that would've set or re-set Jones market. Technically Katz isn't the reason Jones isn't getting what he wants (in all likelihood).

But it's still just poor form by the agent. Your guy needs to know what he's facing and what he's gambling by planting a flag. And he needs to be fully apprised of what the upshot of planting said flag might be.

Ultimately THAT'S where Katz likely failed. Presumably this was a strategy months in the making and in the process, Katz simply laid out a roadmap that wasn't up to date. And in the process he's likely created unnecessary tension between Jones and the front office. If not getting Jones money he was never going to get anyway isn't fireable, the unnecessarily caustic turn this thing has taken probably should be.

Have fun in your next career as an insurance agent, my dude. You've gacked the hell out of this thing.
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Old 08-29-2023, 08:01 AM   #2703
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I will never hate on a player trying to get the most money he can, but I will certainly chuckle when it backfires on them if they overvalue their demand.
It also suggests the 'trade Jones for multiple 1sts!' crowd is probably overshooting.

We know what the market for premier DTs is - it's been set multiple times this off-season. If teams aren't treating DTs like teams were treating WRs when wee traded Tyreek Hill, it suggests they aren't THAT gung-ho about acquiring them.

If that's the case - why would a squad give up substantial draft capital to get Chris Jones and pay him a great deal of money?
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It also suggests the 'trade Jones for multiple 1sts!' crowd is probably overshooting.

We know what the market for premier DTs is - it's been set multiple times this off-season. If teams aren't treating DTs like teams were treating WRs when wee traded Tyreek Hill, it suggests they aren't THAT gung-ho about acquiring them.

If that's the case - why would a squad give up substantial draft capital to get Chris Jones and pay him a great deal of money?
Nobody in their right mind should. We did it with Frank Clark and it kind of worked, but dude balled out in the playoffs to salvage that deal.

His best bet is to stay here and still make an ungodly amount of money.
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It also suggests the 'trade Jones for multiple 1sts!' crowd is probably overshooting.

We know what the market for premier DTs is - it's been set multiple times this off-season. If teams aren't treating DTs like teams were treating WRs when wee traded Tyreek Hill, it suggests they aren't THAT gung-ho about acquiring them.

If that's the case - why would a squad give up substantial draft capital to get Chris Jones and pay him a great deal of money?
Yeah, I don't think there's much value there all things considered. It's why I've kinda "planted my flag" in the play out the year and take the comp pick group.
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Old 08-29-2023, 08:17 AM   #2706
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Yeah, I don't think there's much value there all things considered. It's why I've kinda "planted my flag" in the play out the year and take the comp pick group.
Does Dexter and a '24 second rounder feel too rich?

Because I'd do it at this point.

I'm just done with the circus.
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Does Dexter and a '24 second rounder feel too rich?

Because I'd do it at this point.

I'm just done with the circus.
I'd do it. Just be done with it if this is what it's gonna be.
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I believe it is more likely than not he reports today. Just based on rational thinking and HIS own well being. He gains nothing by sitting out. Its quite puzzling that he thinks this would help.
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Yeah, if the Chiefs have pulled the offer or Jones camp doesn't like it.....sitting out just wastes money. I don't get it.
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Old 08-29-2023, 08:28 AM   #2710
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I believe it is more likely than not he reports today. Just based on rational thinking and HIS own well being. He gains nothing by sitting out. Its quite puzzling that he thinks this would help.
Yeah, I think if he doesn't report today, we have likely passed the point of rational behavior and my odds of his legitimately sitting out multiple games goes up quite a lot.
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Yeah, I think if he doesn't report today, we have likely passed the point of rational behavior and my odds of his legitimately sitting out multiple games goes up quite a lot.
What would help is if he shows up and balls the **** out. Sacking mofos left and right and gets off to a hot start.
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It also suggests the 'trade Jones for multiple 1sts!' crowd is probably overshooting.

We know what the market for premier DTs is - it's been set multiple times this off-season. If teams aren't treating DTs like teams were treating WRs when wee traded Tyreek Hill, it suggests they aren't THAT gung-ho about acquiring them.

If that's the case - why would a squad give up substantial draft capital to get Chris Jones and pay him a great deal of money?
Probably a 2nd and a mid rd pick since he's turning 30 on a new team. I'd take that, especially if it was the Cardinals giving us pick 33.

And why wouldn't they? Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison Jr and Chris Jones is a hell of a successful offseason
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Cards are tanking. They don't want any old expensive players.

It would likely be Chicago or.....I dunno. Maybe Carolina?
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RGR said on their YouTube tonight that he was told the Chiefs made an offer to Jones towards the end of OTA’s and that was the last offer.
Quinnen Williams didn't get his extension until mid to late July so he is saying they didn't offer anything since June? I don't believe that story.
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Everyone is saying this is the agents fault. I'm not totally sure of that. His best interest is getting himself as much money as he can for himself, just like Jones. I think this a Jones thing and not an agent thing. I certainly can be wrong however.
Obviously, they are both complicit in failing to understand leverage. When they do the long math at the end of CJ's career, the chosen tact will surely yield the worst possible outcome. He's lost $2mm in fines, surely he lose endorsement opportunities, and it is likely that his quality of play in a contract year will wane, as is typically the case for players missing the entire pre-season. I think they misjudged the the age aspect and the fact he is STILL UNDER CONTRACT! Imho, he could have extended for 3 yrs at about 26-27/yr, won another SB, possibly gotten a gold jacket, and have been set for life in the NFL industry...that has all been possibly jeopardized by this foolish gambit.
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