The Time the U.S. Navy Almost Assassinated the President

[DenverChief]

- Unbelievable - so funny how this kinda stuff never gets talked about - Frazod was on this ship?

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by poolboy

wrong forum bro

It is? Do tell which would be the "right" forum - I'll wait with baited breath.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by poolboy

wrong forum bro

It's not about politics. It's about a ship and it's dumbass crew. Dumbass.

[big nasty kcnut]

Wow fdr was lucky.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

It's not about politics. It's about a ship and it's dumbass crew. Dumbass.

Sometimes you gotta fight ****ups with ****ups

[Bowser]

I don't know what the worse story is - this one, or the time the Air Force almost nuked North Carolina!

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I don't know what the worse story is - this one, or the time the Air Force almost nuked North Carolina!

Oh yeah - I'd love to read/hear that story.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I don't know what the worse story is - this one, or the time the Air Force almost nuked North Carolina!

The physics package wasn't in the bomb so a fissile reaction wasn't possible. But yeah...

Something similar also happened off the coast of Georgia. Tybee Island, or something like that. And that bomb might have had the big bang-bang installed.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Donger

The physics package wasn't in the bomb so a fissile reaction wasn't possible. But yeah...

Something similar also happened off the coast of Georgia. Tybee Island, or something like that. And that bomb might have had the big bang-bang installed.

That is scary to think about

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Donger

The physics package wasn't in the bomb so a fissile reaction wasn't possible. But yeah...

Something similar also happened off the coast of Georgia. Tybee Island, or something like that. And that bomb might have had the big bang-bang installed.

Maybe that's the one I was thinking about? I know the story happened in the 60's, and IIRC that nuke that was dropped was live and had four failsafes on the bomb preventing detonation. Only one held. Yikes.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Maybe that's the one I was thinking about? I know the story happened in the 60's, and IIRC that nuke that was dropped was live and had four failsafes on the bomb preventing detonation. Only one held. Yikes.

The 1961 Goldsboro B-52 crash was an accident that occurred near Goldsboro, North Carolina, United States, on 24 January 1961. A Boeing B-52 Stratofortress carrying two 3–4-megaton Mark 39 nuclear bombs broke up in mid-air, dropping its nuclear payload in the process.[2] The pilot in command, Walter Scott Tulloch, ordered the crew to eject at 9,000 ft (2,700 m). Five crewmen successfully ejected or bailed out of the aircraft and landed safely; another ejected, but did not survive the landing, and two died in the crash.[3] Information declassified in 2013 showed that one of the bombs came close to detonating, with three of the four required triggering mechanisms having activated.[4]

that's nuts

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Maybe that's the one I was thinking about? I know the story happened in the 60's, and IIRC that nuked that was dropped was live and had four failsafes on the bomb. Only one held. Yikes.

They both happened. You might be thinking of another one when we dropped a few nukes on Spain? That was a mess... Sorry about that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_Palomares_B-52_crash

[TLO]

This is a bit off topic, but I've always found it interesting during the Cold War that nuclear war was avoided by a single man on a Russian submarine.

Literally moments from changing the entire course of history.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

This is a bit off topic, but I've always found it interesting during the Cold War that nuclear war was avoided by a single man on a Russian submarine.

Literally moments from changing the entire course of history.

I heard that the move "Crimson Tide" was adapted to the U.S. Navy after a true story with the same premise about a Russian Sub commander. Is that what you are talking about?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I heard that the move "Crimson Tide" was adapted to the U.S. Navy after a true story with the same premise about a Russian Sub commander. Is that what you are talking about?

I'm not certain.

But here's a link about it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasi...ssile%20Crisis.

On 27 October 1962, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, a group of 11 United States Navy destroyers and the aircraft carrier USS Randolph located the diesel-powered, nuclear-armed Foxtrot-class submarine B-59 near Cuba. (The B-59 was one of four Foxtrot submarines sent by the USSR to the area around Cuba.) Despite being in international waters, the United States Navy started dropping signaling depth charges, which were intended to force the submarine to come to the surface for identification.[4][5]

By then, there had been no contact from Moscow for a number of days, and although the B-59's crew had been picking up U.S. civilian radio broadcasts earlier on, the submarine was too deep to monitor any radio traffic, as it was busy trying to hide from its American pursuers. Those on board did not know whether war had broken out or not.[6][7] The captain of the submarine, Valentin Grigoryevich Savitsky, decided that a war might already have started and wanted to launch a T-5 nuclear torpedo.[8]

Unlike other Soviet submarines armed with the "special weapon", where only the captain and the political officer were required to authorize a nuclear launch, three officers on board the B-59 were required to authorize the launch because Arkhipov was also the chief of staff of the brigade (not the commander as is often incorrectly reported, who was in fact Captain First Rank Agafonov Vasili Naumovich).[9][10] The three men were Captain Savitsky, Political Officer Ivan Semyonovich Maslennikov, and Executive Officer Arkhipov. An argument broke out among the three of them, with only Arkhipov against the launch.[11]

Although Arkhipov was only second-in-command of the B-59, he was also the chief of staff of the flotilla. According to author Edward Wilson, the reputation Arkhipov had gained from his courageous conduct in the previous year's K-19 incident played a large role in the debate to launch the torpedo.[8] Arkhipov eventually persuaded Savitsky to surface and await orders from Moscow. His persuasion effectively averted a nuclear war that likely would have ensued if the nuclear weapon had been fired.[12] The batteries of the B-59 ran very low and its air conditioning failed, which caused extreme heat and generated high levels of carbon dioxide inside the submarine.[13] It surfaced amid the U.S. warships pursuing it and made contact with a U.S. destroyer. After discussions with the ship, B-59 was then ordered by the Russian fleet to set course back to the Soviet Union.[14]